Daughter of Zion Eternally Presents


Opening Segment

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

For the purposes of this I will be using the scriptures to instruction and maybe even to inspire.

How can talking about Eschatology be instructional unto righteousness and inspirational? That's a great question come along and let us see.

I start with the book of Daniel that I am using as a template or what I will call the Daniel Template A template is used to give a uniform set of specifications or measurements or a pattern wherein to lay out and form pieces to somthing, a maidenform is a wiremesh bendable shape of a woman conformable to a particualr woman's figure over laid with heavy cloth so as to protect fabric. It is mounted with rods to a pole and stands in a sewing room and is used to lay out pattern pieces for clothing to check fit and adjust to the form the maidenform was modeled after. Other templates might a set of architectural or engineering drawings which lay of the measurements for a building telling the builder what is used where and how it is put on and what its dimensions will be. Templates can also be a series of shapes cut into metal or plastic which when laid on paper in a chosen order and traced out with a pencil or pen produce either a picture or a shape to be cut out for a purpose. In this case it is the events in these Templates that may give us clues as to what is coming as Jesus prepares to return. Prayerfully used it may even help to "know the times" and "what should be done".

When these things were written Daniel was simply told to close up and seal his book portion for a "time to come". Tradition intimates that knowing what he knew Daniel acutally either laid out specific instructions and had vessels made or had the actual items prepared years ahead of time for the Magi to bring to the child Jesus before the flight into Egypt. The other template I respectfully call the Revelation Template. With it will of necesity be a study of the book. One of many I am quite certain.
The key to these templates is the fit. The historical evidences must be a PERFECT FIT to the Template or be disgarded. Daniel's Template seems to have already been fulfilled but there are cryptic little spots that dont appear in history. After the writing until the day of Jesus. I do use certain older commentaries to help me decifer the historical links of prophecy and fulfillment.

The Daniel Template.

Daniel 8 and the ram. Daniel is at this time the cupbearer and servant to the king nebuchadnezar. He is not as vs 27 implies in shushan or susa at the royal palace there. Keil and Dilitch believes this to be a spiritual placement. There is argument to the contrary but this piece of evidence taken from (http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13621-shushan) states that "Ancient capital of Susiana or Elam, and the winter residence of the kings of Persia; situated between the Choaspes (modern Ab-i Kerkhah) and the Eulæus (the "Ulai" of Dan. viii. 2; modern Shaur), fifteen miles southeast of Dizful. The city was a very ancient one, and is mentioned under the name of Sis or Sisa in Babylonian inscriptions as early as 2400 B.C. In 640, during the reign of Assurbanipal Shushan came under Babylonian control; but it was captured by the Persians under Cyrus the Great, who made it the seat of government." Since this arrangment of being cupbearer in susa was not in force until the persian kingdom came into its own then this is a vision. Thus the first indication that this is a multifullfilled prophecy. Our Ram may be Persia. In fact it may be Darius the Mede who took Babylon from Belshazzar. ( side notes here folks. Nebuchadnezzar apparently had a son Amel-Marduk who was assassinated by Nergal-sharezer. It is this man who fathered Nabonidus whose son Belshazzar was disenthroned by Darius the Mede.) Susa was an Elamite province part of Persia. Apparently when Persia took Babylon it annexed the capital to Susa. This is the self same Susa of Esther and Xerxes.

Now we have the setting that this is a spiritual thing that Daniel is in Susa a place he may never have served in. So who is the Ram? It stands by the Ulai canal. The identity of the Ram is found in Dan 8:20 the horns are Media and Persia. They united to become the Medo-persians and it is they who invaded at the time of Belshazzar and took the Kingdom from the Chaldeans.The uneven horns are the rift of two peoples or princes. The Persian princes did raise up and eventually displace the Median princes. That the "Ram" pushes west supports the conquest by Cyrus. Persian was East of Babylon. The directions it pushes and the sense of this happening at the same time may indicate an encapsulating pincer movement over all of Babylon. According to Keil and Dilitch Cyrus actually pushes to subdue Babylon Syria and Asia Minor in the west; Egypt to the south and the Armenian and Scythians to the North. In Dan 7 we see the bear which Keil and Dilitch seem to see as the Medo-Persians. The three ribs in the mouth would be the three kingdoms vanquished. I agree that the bear and the ram are the one and same archtype. A Kingdom whose rulership is co-authored as are the Median and Persian princes where one comes into dominance. It would conquer its neighbors west souht north. It would dominate and be generous to the Israeli people. Cyrus gave permission to send back to Israel Nehemia his cupbearer and later under Darius Ezra. The beasts or governments of the area were unable to keep from being taken over. In Dan 3 where the count down of kingdoms takes place BABYLON is the head kingdom first of a body of kingdoms until the Christ. Now our Ram Cyrus and the Medopersian kingdom rapidly rises to greatness. Persian law was quite arbitrary, though Hammurabi's code of punishment fitting the crime was play field leveler, and they believed alcohol consumption made one truthful thus law was discussed when drunk and revisited for enactment when sobered up. Since also Persian law was final and binding they were pretty much in control.) (*a note: the lion with eagles wings is a near match to the emblems of Babylon. Babylon of Assyrian rule is our lion with eagle wings which are clipped by the bear of Cyrus.) Also in the statue the Silver chest and arms are the medio-persian empire. The arms represent the two separate ruling entities and the chest shows the connection of a union of rule.

Enter the goat 8:5 A furious goat with one horn comes from the west, Macdonia and Greece lay west of the Persian conglomerate. According to Keil and Dilitch this goat is a Javan dynasty ruler. Javan is apparently Macedonia. Alexander megalos (the great) was Macedonian who conquered Greece Egypt and Persia. Noone stood before Alexander. He is our leopard with wings. He was a visionary king whose horn or rule was broken off and the rule divided.So the Goat and the four headed four winged leopard are one and same archtype. As the silver was the Medio/Persian bear, the bronze stomache and legs, the goat of singular horn, is Alexander's Macedonio/Greco onslaught.
But the Goat's singular visionary horn is shattered (broken off) splitting into four which "curl" as it were into the four directions of the winds. These are the generals four who take over various portions of Alexander's once vast kingdom. One rules the macedonian greece area so he is never going to be mentioned again. One is an absolute despot and so bad that the other three come together and remove him. This gives rise to the Dan 11:5 of the "one of the ones with him"... rising. The general who took the area wherein Egypt lays had a helper, another general name Seleucus. Sound familiar that name? It should, because the general who was removed had rudely come in and taken from this Seleucus a portion of realestate given as a gift by the Ptolemies. Now that this general was gone Seleucus wasted no time in laying claim to that which was his. Now we have three kings once again occupying the northern and southern portions of what is today the palestinean areas. However the two kings sharing the area wherein Babylon lay had an uneasy tension between them and ultimately Seleucus wanted, shall we say, more elbow room. At the historic battle Ipsus Seleucus suceeds in absorbing all the lands held by his rival.Now there are two.

What follows in Dan chapter 11 is a blow by blow account of the Ptolomeic and Seleucid wars and it is accurate right down to Bernice Laodice and the first of two Cleopatras. All these players go back and forth to the intrigues of the fourth Ptolemy who was so rotten that he actually went to go into the Holy of Holies and declare himself god. From these arises Antiochus the great whose exploits are quite legendary but whose hubrus fed by another legend the one, and only Hannibal who dared to sack Rome controlled Italy with war elephants brought in over the mountain Himmalayas, and failed; led to the loss of his son and a horrendus tax. By the time of the next legend the blasphemous Antiochus Ephiphanes, Antiochus the Great who had fallen and left a son to rule behind him. The other son seleucus IV Philopater in an attempt to shore up the kingdom through certain marriage arangements manages to get Rome's attention and now just as Antichuis The Great had to give his son hopstage so now does Philopater and so now Epiphanes returns. But treachery was already afoot and one Heriodorus a digruntled general who ordered by Philopater to sack Jerusalem for money to pay the annual talents to Rome (supposedly he was levied with an 15,000 talent fine as well as Antiochus The Great's 15,000 talent fine? I gather noone wa very happy with this ruler..) so had killed Philopater whose son was in exile, thus even though he in turn slew Herodiodorus for this treasonus act, Ephiphanes method of acquistion to the throne albeit bloodless by his hand was still seen as VILE. He is the VILE ONE. He is also one archtype of AntiChrist.

So while Antichus is an profile or archtype this is NOT our antichrist. This is also a template of events or pattern.

The little horn

We are now back to chapter 7. Once again we are looking at that great and terrible fourth beast. It is not like the previous three. Each of the previous three had exact matches in other chapters of Daniel and fit into the statue of Nebuchadnezzar. But we have yet to understand the feet of iron and clay. Could this be Rome? The iron and clay feet and the Iron teeth might go together. This beast devours subjugating everyone in his path. and has ten horns. Dan 7: 23 It will "trample and crush"(LEB) the whole Earth. The ten horns are ten kings that will arise from this ONE KINGDOM. The horn then deposes THREE OF TEN. it is important to note that the horn that deposes three is NOT one of the ten. This is horn number 11! After the ten kingdoms arise whether in succession or all at once there comes one more on the scene following them. The debate seems to be which of the ten this horn deposes. But lets look it another way. What if the ten are consecutive kingdoms whose rule remains in some form or other and three of them are deposed in the commencement of the eleventh. Now the only way to find out is to look back at the historical model. What fits? We have seen Antiochus Epiphanes and as appealing as it is to say he is "it" his story doesnt fit.

One other person has been cited: Herod the Great http://jesusprophecies.wordpress.com/2011/03/18/the-little-horn-of-daniel/ is about this horn in the Daniel scripture and has come to the same historical conclusions as I did and feels this person might well be Herod Agrippa the great. I dont find conclusive evidence of ten territories or kingdoms or zones or regions for Rome but they seemed to hold Britain, Gaul, Israel, Africa, Italy, Egypt, Syria, Greece, Germany(?) or Slavia (?) and spain. But there may be more to it and from what maps I see ther are at least four or five more... but lets look at Herod. Good old wikipedia, the only place that is free.

Wikipedia makes one thing startlingly clear. Herod was of Idumean decent... Esau was the father of the Edomite later called Idumean. So He was of the seed of the woman but of Abraham through Esau. Very important he wont care for his brethren. Anyone who knows about the Maccabees knows Judas Macabeaus was of the house of Hasmoneus. The Hasmonean house eventually owned the High Priesthood. Hasmonean ruler John Hyrcanus conquered the Edomites and forced them to convert. In Alexander Janneus reign Antipas became ruler of Edom, his son Antipator the Idumean became chief advisor for Hyrcanus II and got in good graces with Rome. Cesar appoints Antipator procurator of Judea so when his sons Phasael and Herod came along they were appointed to rule Jerusalem and Galilee. Under Mark Antony they recieved the rank of tetrarch. So Israel was under Hasmonean rule under HyrcasnusII and Idumean techarchal rule as well. But when Antigonus HyrcanusII's nephew wrested the throne away from his uncle with Parthinian help Antipater siding against Marc Antony and now dead was unable to protect his sons so in the transition Phasael perished but Herod survived and fled to Rome and through much bargaining got Roman support to be crowned "King of the Jews" and went back and destroyed the last of the Royal Hasmonean line. But he married Mariamne the neice of Antigonus, of the Hasmonean dynasty and put to death his other wife Doris and Antipater their son (she was his attempt to get in favor with the jews). She is the daughter of Simon the High Priest. But while Herod the great boasted and built he also dared to slaughter the innocents... Rachel weeping for her children is not comforted because they are not. ... Yet a megalomaniac like this man may fit the profile of our boastful horn. BUt Herod does NOT overthrow three of ten kingdoms to come into power.

Herod doesnt fit the eleventh kingdom. Because from Babylon to Herod' time only Rome is left of the previous series of kingdoms listed in the statue and beasts. Rome does NOT fit the ten kinged beast.

But this horn does more. It blasphemes God, wears down the saints making war with them, (sounds like the AntiChrist there) and one more thing "and he will attempt to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time and two times and half a time."(Dan 7:25b LEB) Now Antiochus Epiphanes (epimanes) does blaspheme by actually slaughtering a pig and spilling its blood onto practically everything in the Temple. He may well also have slaughtered the priests. This may well be why by the time of Jesus day there doesnt appear to be an actual priesthood or even the Ark of the Presence, present in Israel. The Maccabean war was taxing to the "saints" but were there saints yet? Jesus hadnt come,hadnt died and ressurrected so there could be no saints yet. So while this historical archtype does fit in so many ways he is ahead of schedule and thus this is not the AntiChrist. However the pattern does fit for in offering the swines blood and erecting the Zeus Ephiphanes attempted to "REPLACE" the Living God with a "nogod". In the time to come the actual AntiChrist will EMBODY the replacement with himself being the NOGOD.

So finally we see this is a whole new person. Many have tried to be this horn or fit its pattern but so far not even Hitler fits.

So then we have a historical countdown to Jesus. Now there is one thing that does happen with Herod. His masssacre of the children was an attempt to kill Jesus who escaped in parental arms to Egypt. Seems it was a matter of months and Herod was dead. They came back to Galilee at Nazareth. Jesus is the mountain hewn without hands... the stone the builders rejected that becomes the mountain. Jesus existence, it seems, puts an end to this particular "horn".

But we have an count down to a time when Israel being scattered abroad after the striking down of her Shepherd (Jesus) becomes again a nation. So do we have a countdown to the day of that National innaguration?
Some say yes and they think the final item is the UN itself.
I have to wonder if there is a countdown from 1948 itself! You see what we need if we use these models is to find matches in the time when scripture indicates AntiChrist will come. In classical Rome I fail to find the last horrible beast in fact iron teeth are also missing. True iron it seems didnt exist in Romes day. But of all the major kingdoms that were overthrown Rome never fell exactly. It was merely overun by refugees and driven insane from perhaps to much lead in the water... however the hot water mineral deposits actually coated the lead and their brand of wine was the drink of choice so... they just faded out. Also when do these last days begin? With the birth of Jesus? The death of and resurrection of Jesus? That Jesus has come at all perhaps begins the Last Days. Paul certainly felt it was and so did countless believers of those eras and in each great catastrophe it is maintained the Holy Spirit's whisper of the hoofbeats of the Apacalyptic horsemen were upon us all. Yet we are still here and in tis country we "live free and worship free".

I maintain we havent found our last nasty Kingdom quite as yet. Now Rome by the way sported a lot of images. They sported the leaopard skins of Macedonia, the bearish bullish brutality of Persia, Eagles with wings, and boats that went all over, Lions even. They were a hodge podge of cultures and they took the best and brightest ideas of their subjugated cultures and improved on them. (If they could have had patents they would have the patents on the patents of every country on the planet in this day and age.) so while perhaps Rome was among Daniels countdown perhaps its lack of fit caused Israel to miss the time of visitation. So then we move on to the next set of images.

Back to the horn. Dan 7:8-14 makes no sense in the light of historical fulfillments. Here are these ten hors atop a beast. One rise up deposes three says a lot great things and Dan 7:9 comes along and the Ancient of Days is there and everything shifts "elsewhere".

There is a confrontation; this horn and this Ancient of Days whose description is atonishingly like Rev chapter 1. Thrones are thrown down. The Throne itself sounds like Ezekiel's "wheel within a wheel". But there is a decided difference. Books are opened. Suddenly I am in the beginning of Revelation and here is our AntiChrist!
But it goes on. The Beast and its body are destroyed. Now the complimentary scripture to this is found in Revelation 19:11 And I saw the heaven opened; and behold, a white horse, and he that sat thereon called Faithful and True; and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Rev 19:12 And his eyes are a flame of fire, and upon his head are many diadems; and he hath a name written which no one knoweth but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he is arrayed in a garment sprinkled with blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which are in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure.
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth proceedeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness of the wrath of God, the Almighty.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his garment and on his thigh a name written, KINGS OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in mid heaven, Come and be gathered together unto the great supper of God;
Rev 19:18 that ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses and of them that sit thereon, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, and small and great.
Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat upon the horse, and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought the signs in his sight, wherewith he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast and them that worshipped his image: they two were cast alive into the lake of fire that burneth with brimstone:
Rev 19:21 and the rest were killed with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, even the sword which came forth out of his mouth: and all the birds were filled with their flesh.

Compare with Eze 38:21 And I will call for a sword against him unto all my mountains, saith the Lord Jehovah: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
Eze 38:22 And with pestilence and with blood will I enter into judgment with him; and I will rain upon him, and upon his hordes, and upon the many peoples that are with him, an overflowing shower, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
Eze 38:23 And I will magnify myself, and sanctify myself, and I will make myself known in the eyes of many nations; and they shall know that I am Jehovah.

Sometimes you just have to have the truth smack you up side the eyeballs. In Ezek 38:21 there is a call from YHVH for a SWORD. In Rev 19:21 and the rest were killed with the SWORD of Him who sat on the horse THE SWORD THAT CAME FORTH FROM HIS MOUTH... duh! Here by the way also is the SWORD OF THE LORD... What else is this SWORD going to be called? Well whereelse is a sword mentioned in the New Testament? Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: The SWORD of the SPIRIT which is also known as WORD OF GOD. Wait isnt there mention of that phrase in Rev 19? Indeed there is... 19:13 ...and His name is called WORD OF GOD... So when out of the mouth of our illustrious mounted glorious rider ..King...is this SWORD used to SMITE THE NATIONS (Rev 19:15) It is the same SWORD used to end all the competition on the battle field as well. Now this little war happens at the beginning of the Millenial Rule because later mention in chapter 20 talks about the souls of those who did not fall sway to the antichrist and were not marked and only the ones who were RESSURRECTED! This is the FIRST RESSURECTION and those blessed to be in it have no fear of SECOND DEATH. But look at the carnage! [goto anchor A]

Reading forward there is another misconception straightened out. The lake and pit. They are not the same place... the two the beast and the prophet are the willing pawn of the Dragon. When they are done they are done. You wont see them again. The Dragon however is sealed in for a season. WHy? there is one battle twice tried. Seriously some entities just dont learn! .....The Lake:Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought the signs in his sight, wherewith he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast and them that worshipped his image: they two were cast alive into the lake of fire that burneth with brimstone: (but it doesnt say for how long here. I at least, have always assumed it was forever) but look here at the pit:
Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, the old serpent, which is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 and cast him into the abyss, and shut it, and sealed it over him, that he should deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years should be finished: after this he must be loosed for a little time.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are also the beast and the false prophet; and they shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. And here is the same place the same Lake which we now know is also THE PIT.
Moreover the text clearly states FOREVER AND EVER to be TORMENTED. (By the way if then this is the pit I believe it quite fitting to include these scriptures as well and lets look at the fit shall we?)
Isa 14:9 Sheol from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming; it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
Isa 14:10 All they shall answer and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

Isa 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to Sheol, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and worms cover thee.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, that didst lay low the nations!
Isa 14:13 And thou saidst in thy heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; and I will sit upon the mount of congregation, in the uttermost parts of the north;
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.
Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to Sheol, to the uttermost parts of the pit.
Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall gaze at thee, they shall consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
Isa 14:17 that made the world as a wilderness, and overthrew the cities thereof; that let not loose his prisoners to their home?
Isa 14:18 All the kings of the nations, all of them, sleep in glory, every one in his own house.
Isa 14:19 But thou art cast forth away from thy sepulchre like an abominable branch, clothed with the slain, that are thrust through with the sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a dead body trodden under foot.
Isa 14:20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, thou hast slain thy people; the seed of evil-doers shall not be named for ever.

Could Sheol include a place called The Pit? A pit with a Lake of Fire? Also the sister scripture shall we say from Ezekiel. Eze 28:11 Moreover the word of Jehovah came unto me, saying,
Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Eze 28:13 Thou wast in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, the topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was in thee; in the day that thou wast created they were prepared.
Eze 28:14 Thou wast the anointed cherub that covereth: and I set thee, so that thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till unrighteousness was found in thee.
Eze 28:16 By the abundance of thy traffic they filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore have I cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God; and I have destroyed thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:17 Thy heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I have cast thee to the ground; I have laid thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Eze 28:18 By the multitude of thine iniquities, in the unrighteousness of thy traffic, thou hast profaned thy sanctuaries; therefore have I brought forth a fire from the midst of thee; it hath devoured thee, and I have turned thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
Eze 28:19 All they that know thee among the peoples shall be astonished at thee: thou art become a terror, and thou shalt nevermore have any being.) And look here....the SWORD slays... Eze 28:18 By the multitude of thine iniquities, in the unrighteousness of thy traffic, thou hast profaned thy sanctuaries; therefore have I brought forth a fire from the midst of thee; it hath devoured thee, and I have turned thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. The fire of heaven comes down.... no King on the horse... no saints looking on... THIS is the Millenial Kingdom they come and encompass the CAMP and the SAINTS in it! Fire from heaven is one thing Father dealing out permanent justice! Notice who is specifically mentioned.... GOG and MAGOG! So now it becomes clear as to why the Ezekiel passages refering to this Gog and or of the land of Magog dont seem to really have a etimology. It may well be that this is a name for a time to come and it also may well be as previously mentioned that this is a coloquial title and or name for someone known to Ezekiel or the world of his day.

Lets look at this King of Tyre, he had to be quite special indeed, perfect, and alive when God was walking in Eden, a covering cherub ( Cherub??? I thought those were a type of Angel?), an or The Anointed Cherub who covers,and the clothes were every sort of precious stone and he had musical instrument in him physically....??? This is an Earthly king??!!! No mer mortal sovereign nomater how majestic or special was ever so described. No this is the Satan the Adversary,The Dragon of old, The prince of the power of the air, the god of this world. This is the Devil.

Now looking at this and reminding ourselves ofthe part of Ezek that talks about Hamongog it is quite suddenly complete.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 and shall come forth to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Rev 20:9 And they went up over the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are also the beast and the false prophet; and they shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Now we look at this whole set of images and see this. Dan 8:23-25 the fierce countenanced cunning utterer of dark sayings person of intrigue who comes up against the Prince of Princes. Jesus of course is Born King yet if one read the rise of Herod the great and realizes the trangressors come to the full in the house of Hasmoneus, Herod does indeed fulfill an archtype of this character and it isnt long after he slaughters the children wherein he attempts to kill God the Son (Prince of Princes), or Lord of Lords, that he is ended. Not killed just dead. Yet for all that Herod does indeed fit the bill and it will do for an introduction to Jesus day, still it is not PRECISE. For this to work the image and its reality must be a PRECISE OVERLAY.

So now we have Dan 8:23-25 and Dan 7:8-12 (which fits more the pattern of the second loosing of Satan and the conflagration or war he causes.) But wait go back to Dan 8:9-14 and there is a horn but this horn doesnt face an Ancient of Days or even the Prince of Princes... only a prince of the host which in the hebrew can be a High Priest. This horn is the exact fit to Antiochus Epiphanes who is the Selucid Greek King of the East. In fact if memory serves me they opened the city gates and surrendered to him without a word. 2300 days after the regular sacrifice was stopped by a pig on the altar and the god of his people was set up in the Holy of Holies (hey where was the Ark? why doesnt he fry?) till the Maccean revolt and the chanukah miracle CLEANSED TEMPLE. So there are TWO HORNS!!!! Thats right folks this is the countdown the ram of the Persians, the goat of the Macedonian conqueror and Antiochus the defiler horn! By the time of Jesus birth the macabean revolt was history and by the time he confronted the priests the house of Hasmoneus long owned the priesthood and perhaps by Herods hand had met their end.

So then who is the other horn? Dan 8 23-25 is the explaination for 9-14 but it is cast a bit differently. Here the horn faces the Prince of princes and the angel tells Daniel to close the book to the latter days. Suddenly right in this passage we have a SECOND HORN. In actuality this horn matches better the horn of 7:25.

But it gets better Dan 12 is a whole new topic. It starts in 10:20-21. Gabriel tells Daniel when he leaves he will battle the prince of persia but he battled the king of persia to get to Daniel. After that the prince or king of Greece shall come or the ruler of Macedonia. 11:1 finds Daniel confirming and supporting Darius the Mede... the persian king. Daniel is told three kings would rule in persia... and a fourth. According to Keil and Dilitch the fourth is Xerxes. This may be Esther's Ahashereus. This king dealt with one Haman before going out to war against Greece. THe Macedonians amassed in the face of this onslaught. Apparently not only does this kings wealth cause a ruckus with Greece it actually spells the end of the Persian empire.
And a mighty king stands up rules with GREAT authority and does what he pleases. History recalls a MACEDONIAN Alexander Megalos who fits this description perfectly. It also fits that at the pinnacle of his conquesting rule he dies and his kingdom is divided into 4 and not to heirs. His generals went four ways and took over four regions. Two sets fought two sets and then the rest is history.

What follows is the blow by blow of the wars and intrigues and alliances between these kings. Here is a encapsulated story. 4 generals Ptolemy Lagi assisted by one Seleucus; Antigonus, Cassander, Lysimachus. Originally Seleucus was given Babylon but Antigonus forced him out. So now we see where Seleucus comes from. Antigonus is the first to be forced out. His relations took up rule in Macedonia. He was the one who cost Seleucus Babylon. So Seleucus goes and retakes Babylon and in the deal he also takes Syria and this is the beginning of the Seleucids. Now we have Ptolemy Seleucus Cassander and Lysimachus. Ipsus was a deciding battle for Seleucus as he retook all the territory held by ANtigonus and Lysimachus's lands also were absorbed. Cassander only sought to hold Macedonia and Greece so he was never in the fighting between north and south, so now he is out of the picture. Having absorbed Lysimachus's land, and Cassander's land not being touched at all it is down to Ptolemy who inches forth and places Israel under Ptolomeic rule. Now we have the settings of intrigue. Dan 11:6 talks about some woman who goes to the king of the north. Her arm doesnt hold nor does he and she and those who are with her are GIVEN UP. Sounds confusing doesnt it? No more confusing than the actual events. Seleucus has a son Antiochus I who has a son ANtiochus II who has a son Seleucus II and here is where the woman comes into play. War has been waging for some time and Ptolomy had sons Philadephus and Eugertes I Ptolemy may well be the title for a neo pharaoh like King. It is between Philadelphus and Antiochus II that the woman called Bernice is sent as a "peace offering" of sorts. SHe is from Philadelphus to Antiochus as the war waged left both sides with a stale mate. Bernice has a son... "his arm" and thus when Eugertes I comes into rule with Seleucus II war breaks out and this is the cause: We have another lady involved. Her name is Laodice half sister and wife of Antiochus II who married the fair Bernice to strengthen North South ties...( I take it the war was wearing down both kingdoms) and, you guessed it, Laodice had a son whom she wanted to rule. So she did what any good queen would do... killed her rival, the fair Bernice. THus Bernice's arm and the arm of her baby do NOT HOLD. The arm is the ARM OF RULE.Keil and Dilitch interpret this also as the arm of help. Because she doesnt retain the power to rule she also cannot help foster this peace alliance. This of course if a slap in the face of the Ptolemies and you guessed they named a war after the half sister. The famous Laodicean war aka Third Syrian was fought. Dan 11:16 the shoots of her (Bernice's) roots will stand up. Bernice is a Ptolemy, those are HER ROOTS and so a SHOOT from those roots or Parentage would be Ptolemy III Euergetes I who went so far as to take Syria away from Antiochus II son Seleucus II. If it were not for truoble in Egypt that demanded Euergetes I attention he might well have even suceeded in taking the Seleucid Dynasty's dominions completely away. To sack Syria is quite a bold display of strategic prowess. But he also made it as far as Babylon itself (right into the kings fortresses) Indeed when he turns to deal with Egypt he would have brought the loot with him. Whatever the problems in Egypt they kept him off the battle field for some time to come. Next there are son who are stirred up. TO me it is unclear whose sons bu the Seleucids had Seleucus III and Antiochus III who may have been the stirred up sons who apparently not only took Syria back and then went and overcame Egyptian forces of the Ptolemy King's holdings. No wonder he was so "bitter". Enraged the Ptolemy king goes to war. There is a lot of back and forth and even the offering of a Cleopatra (Not The CLeopatra) in a ploy to ruin the enmy that backfired. Suffice it say that when Antiochus the great came on the scene the Jews had had enough of their current Ptolemy ruler to welcome him with cooperative arms. Had it not been for Hannibal becoming an assistant and convincing him to go after greece and the Roman response things might have been vastly different. As it was the son of Antiochus the great is whisked off to Rome and a huge levy of tribute was exacted. THe next selucid needing to come up with the annual tribute heavily taxed everyone.
Dan 11:21 Antiochus Ephiphanes arrives on the scene and Maccabean Revolt will ensue. He it is who stops the sacrifice for 2300 days. In fact because they forsaw him in Daniel it is rumored that the Jews welcomed him openly. (They may well have figured that Messiah the King wqould come to rid them of all thier enemies)Antiochus Ephiphanes is also mentioned in Dan 8:9. He is the little horn of great boast. BUT even this character DOES NOT FACE John the Revelator's Jesus and the book opened. So then this is a despised one he was taken captive he is heir to the empire but not even his father sought to liberate him so he was considered worthless by his own. He usurped his way into power as a supposed gurdian for a legitimate baby he later killed. He was stopped by Rome from taking Egypt so he went into Israel was allied with by Helenized Jews and between their help and his cunning he entered Temple erected a Zeus and stopped the worship of God and obeyance of the Law even outlawing it. Basically what we have in short is a blow by blow description of sketched events in a very specific pattern that fits the Ptolemy Seleucid war.

11:30-35 describes the arrogance of Ephiphanes and in this man we see a profile of our AntiChrist. In the Greek the word Anti means INSTEAD OF not AGAINST. He replaces YHVH the Father the creator for the presumed millequivalent in his gods, Zeus. Jesus would later refer to this and say when you see it RUN. 11:35-40 Is more of the same of the exploits of this Antiochus and the favors he bestows on those who are loyal to him,but 11:40 Opens with AT THE END TIME. Here according to Keil and Dilitch history and the book of Daniel differs. The text has Anitochus invading Egypt. But ROme now held Egypt and the threat of being taken out was a very real one. Add to this Antiochus has played out most of his money and might not be able to pay a standing army. In fact when he hears that the Maccean revolt has reestablish God and in so doing taken out his vassal soveriegn in Persia, he fell ill and died. So who is this? One clue "IN THE END TIMES". The "END TIMES" are after the Cross Anno Domini. Here there appears to be a shift in time. Antiochus of old historically according to the historians of the day, except Porphyrus who may have dome a bad write of the history of his day, and Maccabees agree that Antiochus being cash strapped decided to sack Persia and failed miserably. This is an Antiochus who by now has made many a foray of war and had his tail handed to him multiple time in attempts to sack Egypt by Rome; he is older war worn perhaps and so he goes back to Babylon sets up a friend as governer then attempts to sack Persia. When he returns in defeat he then gets the news of the sucessful Maccabean revolt and the re erection of YHVH as thier god (God) and that in the mileu Lysias and Judas had somehow faced off and Lysias lost, meaning he basically has nothing left in Babylon. He grew ill and died.

This leaves us with a split in the historical apartition of prophecy.
In consulting with CLarke and Jaimeson, Faucett and Brown along side Keil and Dilitch which are older commentaries they seems to agree that this battle was in the time of Mohammed. It starts with the southern Sarecens "pushing" at Egypt, or rather the Greek emperor Heraclius, by depriving of Egypt. Seizing on the opportunity the Northern Turks whose ships were apparently good enough to best the Ventian fleets (The Navy of the day) helped them to not only crush Greece but just keep going. They "flooded" over Western Asia (Asia Minor?) and "passed over" into Europe or the Meditaranean of the day and set their new captial in Constantinople. This historical accounting fits perfectly. BUt what about Rome? Rome was the world of Jesus day even though the street Koine Greek was spoken, Latin was fast becoming the new language of trade. WAs their arrival and invasion? Egypt has them as protectors from the Seleucids and Israel called them in to deal with Antiochus... The Geneva bible notes indicate Rome but noone else does.
But as with many of these Template type prrophecies there may be mutltiple fulfillments.

The next pattern.

The Turks and the Saracens. An important note here. Oriental or Eastern Orthodoxy had in that time and may still have, a doctrinal view called either miaphysitism or henophysitism. Basically it sees Jesus as have one UNITED NATURE ( Wikepedia) "Miaphysitism (sometimes called henophysitism) is a Christological formula of the Oriental Orthodox Churches and of the various churches adhering to the first three Ecumenical Councils. Miaphysitism holds that in the one person of Jesus Christ, Divinity and Humanity are united in one or single nature ("physis"), the two being united without separation, without confusion, and without alteration." ( This by the way is not the correct understanding of "fully God as if her were no man and fully man as if he were no God".) Mohammed founded something else....Islam. It is now the 7th century AD Egypt is part of the Byzantine Empire. By this the full fruits of Alexander Megalos have vcome to be seen. Greeks and Coptics co-habited the empire. This miaphysitism had to vie with Chalcedonian Christianity whopse doctrine believed Jesus held two entirely different natures, one divine and one human and they through the hypostasis of the LOGOS or WORD in a hypostatic UNION.(This is the accepted and common understanding of Christ in the church world today at least as it applies to the Western Church). All of this involves the understanding of the scriptures left from the Early Church and in deed there was a long history of meetings in which understanding became doctrine and doctrine is what molds and shapes the churches today.
While all this is happening in the Byzantine Empire the Muslim or Ottoman Turks had been ruling in Italy. That ended badly. They couldnt have been to happy so is it any wonder they went after Greece? Byzantine Empire had been taken by the Persians and had just come back under Greek rule and before they could secure themselves in comes The Rashidun Caliphate and the Saracen Muslim Army he led. According to Wikepedia December 639 AD 4000 soldiers head for Egypt. Some are from the Ak and possibly even the Gafik tribes of Islam. As they go they are joined by Byzantine and Persian Islamic converts and the ranks swell. IN the mean time the Caliphate that sent this army reconsiders the wisdom of taking Egypt with only 4000 men so they send this letter that states that if theyhavent reached Egypt by reciept of communique ... come home if they were in Egpyt by that time "Allah" help them, and what adi was afforded would be sent. Seems the commander of this army now knowing it was well over 4000 wanted his "glory" so he tricked the messenger into handing over the letter at nightfall when they set camp for the night. He made sure they were in Egyptian territory and with consultation upon reading it sent back that he was indeed in Egypt when recieving the communique and would go on to fulfill the "destiny". They did get a lot of support as the seiges they laid in certain areas were stiffly rebutted, from the Beduin. But no amount of assistance could get the sack of Babylon and none if its nearby areas could be raided for supplies so they were unable to take that city. They managed to take everything else though. THe next group finding Egypt tattered came in for the kill. they had a marvelous naval support and they did seize Babylon and all those fortified cities. THey flowed over into the rest of Meditarranean "Europe" of the day.
However there are still key elements of this chapters passages that arent a PERFECT FIT for either Antiochus or THe Saracen /Turk regimes. So then we have a profile.

The Profile of an AntiChrist

Here is a man who:
Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. When Antiochus came in he basically did as he pleased until it was in regard to any where Rome held. He may well have been a megalomaniac but this may be the key difference between some like Antiochis and someone like Muhammed.
Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Now Antiochus fits this bill partially but the Muslim raiders also fit the bill and perhaps Muhamed himself? Antiochus was a Persian Prince. A Seleucid heir. He was kidnapped and taken and held prisoner in Rome for ten or more years. His choice of Zeus is NOT what a Seleucid or even a pseudo Macedonian would have used. It is also to be noted that in Rome same sex relationships in military arenas were commonplace.
Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. The worship of Zeus might fit the bill for a god of forces, after all his weapon of choice is a lightening bolt. Romans commonly honored the gods with gems and valuable metals.
Dan 11:39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain. It is to the Romans gods that a Seleucid Persian/Macedonian Prince prays to, and honors richly wherever he conquers. Dan 11:36 mentions the Indignation. the Prophets also warned that they Jews were to close the prayer closet doors and shut themselves in UNTIL THE INDIGNATION WAS OVERPASSED. ( Isa_26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.) Thus it is possible that The Indignation is also THe Abomination set in the Temple. An interesting note that The Indigantion is also mentioned in daniel thusly...(Dan_11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.)

This is now the ending of the whole passage and its is with a twist.

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Michael the great Prince is traditionally referred to as the Arch Angel Michael. But could there be a physical counterpart? Not likely... look at the rest of the verse. "time of trouble" "written in the book" Now DID the arch angel stand and fight when Antiochus Epiphanes defiled Temple? I dont think so, thus this is a shift in time but God uses this shift to make the comparison. A time wherein His own are under an attack from one like Epiphanes, but perhaps much worse. Also the reference to "written in the book" this phraseology almost always seems to crop up when speaking of the End Times.

Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. (Rom 2:6 He "will give to each according to his works:" LXX-Psa. 61:13; MT-Psa. 62:12 Rom 2:7 everlasting life truly to those who with patience in good work seeking glory and honor and incorruptibility; Rom 2:8 but to the ones truly disobeying the truth out of self-interest, and obeying unrighteousness, will be anger and wrath, Rom 2:9 trouble and pain on every soul of man that works out evil, both of Jew first, and of Greek. Rom 2:10 But glory and honor and peace will be to everyone working out good, both to the Jew first, and to the Greek. Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God)[ Here is your first ressurection.]

In what history has THIS ever happened? Not even in the days of the first sorte of AntiChrist do ALL the dead awaken. In the tradtional view of the Rapture or Harpedzo it is the Righteous or Sanctified Ones who awaken at the last Trump. NOne of these are consigend to everlasting shame. ( or are they?) According to Revelation it is after the THOUSAND years that the land and sea GIVE UP THEIR DEAD. Once again we are apparently NOT looking at this time of trouble... but one after a thousand years of "peace"????

Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. (Pro_11:30 The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.) Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. This would seem to apply to this era and knowlege has increased but is it the knowlege of the Holy One?

One more knot to try to untie. In Dan 7:25 speaking of our horn here it says that he will "think" to change "times and laws" AND they SHALL be given into his hand for a time times and half a time. (the times thing is generally agreed upon to be years.) Now times and laws... most think it to be jewish law and indeed it was in Macabees. So some might also think it to be christian law or forbidding the worship. Keil and Dilitch seem to feel this may have far reaching conseqiences as in the changing of the seasons themselves. As in changing the times. Harpp might be an effective season changer and all one ever need do is reset the atomic clocks of greenwich mean time back or forward and it will effectively mess up a whole lot of stuff. (Just think what the daylight savings time does for schedules right now and that isnt antichrist... i dont think.) Jameison faucett and brown critical explanatory commentary and matthew henry's commentary agree with keil and dilitch that this may well be both the religious law and perhaps even more. Mathew henry goes so far as to suggest he may even try to best God at His own work! Compare this verse to Dan 2:21 “It is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings;He gives wisdom to wise men And knowledge to men of understanding."This is the apparent challenge but how to accomplish it? Well if you set up a whole new monetary system based on a mark... that will most definately do interesting things to juris prudence and because neither jew nor christian dare take it, their religious systems will be forced underground ( the effect of ceasing) and thus viola! Times laws et al changed. But Mathew Henry alludes it may even be in his hopes to change the actual movement of the universe! (well he is a major megalo maniac, what did we expect here?) finally though there is a light at the end of the tunnel. the last two verses "on the matter" tell us the judgement will sit and the whole of the kingdom will be given to the saints... to rule. Of course this may give rise to another question on the timing of it all. for doesnt this come intoht emilenial riegn? Then again we read at the end of revelation in chapter twenty about the river flowing from the throne (Rev 22:21-22) the tree and the reign with Him forever, so. So we find that some if not most of this has happened at least once as a pattern of dominance and defilement but no heavenly thrones or books or judgement took place following. In our tribulation there will be then a defiling of a temple and assertion of Godhood therein.At this point it is time to move on.

Ezekiel 38
Snapshot of a day of battle.

Gog, Magog, Meshech, Tubal, Libia, Ethiopia, Persia, Gomer, Togarmah all armed cavalry heavy bucklered. Sounds like this may have conflagrated before otherwise might we think of tanks? it opens with... SON of man turn your face against Gog in Magog...
It then goes onto describe in stunning detail a battle array. this is the last days and there will be a hook put in the jaw and the evil thought that each and every one of them will be thinking... lets go pillage that nice unwalled land where that nation is at ease. traditionally it is thought this is Israel and the jewish people are under attack again. I tend to suddenly think not. This is not the mess at the beginning of everything but after the millenial reign.
Eze 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them
Eze 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
Eze 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. Now this is KJV but look at the description of Israel. unwalled, at ease, out of many nations, places desolate now inhabited, at rest, mountains that had been laid waste and are BROUGHT BACK FROM THE SWORD, having neither bars nor gates. That doesnt sound like Israel today. Nor is the military build up peopled by these regions at this time but put into perspective that for the believer there is YET A REST, that we are those chosen from the nations, not nations we were scattered to per se but just from the nations or ethnos... or goyim. (TDNT H1471 the word for nations is translated as goy goy or gentiles). Now we are NOT looking at a Jewish Nation but a Nation of Righteous God protected and God prospered GENTILES...?????? In the days of this prophecy God wasnt blessing the Goyim just the Jew. But consider this that Jesus once told a certain woman that he had come to save the lost sheep of Israel that the childrens bread was not fit for dogs.(Matt 15:16)But here is a multi national gentile nation that lives at rest in unprotected shelters and this massive array comes down on it. Moreover there are nations that are encountered along the way namely, Sheba Dedan Tarshish (all of which appear to be located in modern day Turkey) that ask are you going to go plunder? All of this suggests a time when war is NOT KNOWN. "Beat you swords into ploughsheers and spearas into pruning hooks"...(Micah 4:3) this is traditionally thought to be at the close of the millenial reign. Now God's response is legendary, it actually rocks the world! Rev 20:9 is a mirror image of God destroying an invading army surrounding the saints. But this is not the Day Jesus returns.

The Nations Involved.

Wait lets also look at our characters in Ezek 38. Gog... from Magog, what's a Gog? There are a lot of interesting answers but one of which is: Gargareans or gargarenses in Greek. Apparently they were an all male tribe like the Amazionian all female tribe and used to "use" each other to keep the population up. They may be the earlier relations to the modern chechen or ingush people and maybe even the dzurdzuks? They apparently lived in the Caucuses Mountains. Strabo and Gauius Plinius Secundus (a historian of Roman era) apparently make mention of them in their writings, calling them the Gegar. Jaimoukha (another historian) notes the language is one of many nakh roots may mean kindred. The dzurdzuk may also refer to those living around lake durdukkah in the southern Caucusus. They may have come from Eastern Asia Minor (Urartu) and mingled with locals as they crossed the mountains to settle in Ingushetia. They are apparently Nakh people. they may even be the ancestry for Caucasian Albania and Hereti. Otherwise they were horrible people to greek mythos... known as Gorgons, like Medusa. (is it possible they had dreadlocks and painted faces garishly?) There is another camp that believes this may be the Hebraic name for Gyges of Lydia, a syrian king who took the throne by usurpation in 7th century BC. Incidently in the midst of the study I found these names again... In Revelation 19. Gog and Magog are listed as the inciters of the massive encampment against the land of the saints. Thus Ezekiel may not even have been truly addressing anyone of that name or title IN THAT TIME. But he might have and that people group could hold the clue to who incites the atack...

Togarmah may have had ten sons which become perhaps among them the Kasars, Bulgars, Alans, Pechenegs, Kokturks, Oghuz, and surprisingly the Ungarians or Hungarians. What we may then be looking at are the scattered tribes in the Caucus mountains of Georgia and the like. Tubal may have become the Iberian,Hettali, or Bythnians. Gomer may well be the ancestor to the Galatians who then became Gauls,considered by some to be of the Celtic type tribes (by the way aren't these precursor to the French?), they may even be also part of the ancestry of the Cimmerian or Cimbry people of whom some people of the Welsh claim direct decent, and through these people the early and actual true royalty of Britain. Apparently called Gimmiru or "complete" by the Akkadians when they dwelt on the Eurasian Steppes. Their king attacked Assyria and was put down by Esarhaddon. (perhaps that's when they went from the Steppes to Britain???)

Now while Islam does have a fair foothold amongst the Georgian peoples of the Caucuses, (it was either convert or perish) they seemed to simply add allah to their pantheon. But the Cimbry who apparently became the Welsh are Western European and were notinfluenced by Islam.
Now according to Talmudic records Gomer and the Gomerians actually became Germany. ( it actually isn't a stretch to consider that this one man could have fathered both Germanic and Welsh groups. Japeth was a very far flung traveling people in his descendants. It is said his seed settled most of Western Europe. He is also father to the Ashkenaz (ironically they are Jewish in Western Europe.) interestingly enough not only the Welsh but the Irish have a claim on one of the sons of Gomer as their distant ancestor. Meshech according to Josephus may be the ancestor of the Phrygians and Bryges. The Phrygians were a powerful people until under Midas (yes there was a king Midas) they expanded eastward and westward. Eventually the Cimmerians came in and sacked their capital. This ended them as a soveregn nation and they eventually were absorbed into other cultures. It is presumed they are a part of the Turkish mix. They may also be the Bryges who migrated afterthe bronze age ended. These may also be part of the Germanic mix.

Meshech according to Josephus may be the Cappadocian Mosocheni. They may also have been known as the Mushki who were associated with Phrygians and Bryges. Their offspring presumably the Illryians are mentioned by Hippolytus of Rome in 234 AD. Interestingly enough Georgian tradition lists themselves, the Meskheti, as well as the Armenians as decendants. One idea had that this was someone called Samonthes who was Britain King. (Those claims were disvalidated when the fragments of documentation the idea came from were proved forgeries.) One other popular tradition proposed this to be of the Muskovites settling Moscova which is Moscow hence they be Russians. I will tend to the standard rule of the oldest authenticated sources which puts us at Flavius Josephus and our Mosocheni.

Rosh is a sticky thing. There doesnt seem to be a people or place called Rosh or from Japeth called the Rosh... Some people purport it tobe Russia. But in Hebrew Rosh mean HEAD OF. So is it perhaps coincidental that Rosh Head and Prince may be the same connotation meaning the chiefs of or and this is my mere humble speculative thought here, Tribal heads of small Celtic type bands of wanderers who settle down to become people groups. People groups like the other names mentioned in Ezekiel. Celts by the way are not primarily Scotch and or Irish... they are a type of tribal grouping very prominent a long time ago.

A little about those pesky Celts taken from Wikipedia

"The Celts or Kelts were an ethno-linguistic group of tribal societies in Iron Age and Medieval Europe who spoke Celtic languages and had a similar culture. The earliest archaeological culture that may justifiably be considered as Proto-Celtic is the Late Bronze Age Urnfield culture of central Europe from the last quarter of the second millennium BC. Their fully Celtic descendants in central Europe were the people of the Iron Age Hallstatt culture (c. 800-450 BC) named for the rich grave finds in Hallstatt, Austria. By the later La Tène period (c. 450 BC up to the Roman conquest), this Celtic culture had expanded over a wide range of regions, whether by diffusion or migration: to the British Isles (Insular Celts), France and The Low Countries (Gauls), Bohemia, Poland and much of Central Europe, the Iberian Peninsula (Celtiberians, Celtici and Gallaeci) and northern Italy (Golaseccans and Cisalpine Gauls) and following the Gallic invasion of the Balkans in 279 BC as far east as central Anatolia (Galatians). In recent years, tentative evidence has been adduced for a Celtic language in the Tartessian inscriptions of south Portugal and southwest Spain (dating 7th-5th centuries BC). Up until then, the earliest direct examples of a Celtic language had been the Lepontic inscriptions, beginning from the 6th century BC. Continental Celtic languages are attested only in inscriptions and place-names. Insular Celtic is attested from about the 4th century in ogham inscriptions, although it is clearly much earlier. I do simply take from the page here and only make mention of the pre first millenium Celts."

This is why I have the notion that these little Celtic tribes may have been the Japhithites or their offspring on the move. Note that they appear in their proto celtic forms in the bronze age. This is important because the bronze (brass?) age is noted in passages of biblical text.(Gen 4:22 Tubal-cain is the first to work in bronze and iron.Bronze according to some sources appears around 3500 bc and brass may have been around even in the stone age.The iron age may have started as early as 3000 bc not long after bronze. Now these dates of these tribes may also be important if a serious study is ever launched into when Japheth dispersed. For these reasons I feel that these tribes may have been "celtic" or even "proto-celtic" in nature and thus they became poipulaces and territories and in time nations. In the early stages of the celtic tribal history they were all over the place and they fought over land and territory and which group would own what and where. But this is ONLY my humble opinion.

So far we have a mixed contingent of the germanic, russo, slavic, baltic, turkic peoples of Georgia (the country) and perhaps irish and welsh? i think the two latter may be a stretch but most certainly these other lands can easily band together to travel through Georgia and on down through turkey into the northern meditarranean. Add to this now known areas such as persia ethiopia libya and of these known only persia has changed. Persia took over babylon but was destroyed by alexander the great, a grecophile macedonian. Later the ottoman turks came in and took that over what was left of alexander's persia. So now where are we with that realestate? Thanks to an article in National Geographic it appears Persia has become in part Iran. Iran is now an extreme muslim run country. ( remember they have no love for Israel.) Now then we have a drive to conquer originating somewhere that involves the baltic the slavic or posssibly kurdish peoples the people groups of the caucauses that gathers strength out of iran and libya. Libya is in north africa. it sits on the medditerranean sea coast bounded by egypt the sudan chad niger algeria and tunesia. it is the 17th biggest country in the world. Unbelievably before the greeks these were the Berbers! Now we see how ethiopia gets involved. Ethiopia is also on the african continent and it may be that homosapiens first began in this country. it has had its share of influences from the ottoman turks to the italians to communism and more. the last real emperor bore the titles king of kings, lord of lords, lion of the tribe of judah etc as he was believed to be Jah or God perhaps incarnate. (??!!!)

A while back Russian did a push into the slavic areas causing quite a stir. That they could and almost did get a away with it speaks to a pattern wherein some one coming through may be able to get willing support from hebrew hating nations and islam may be on the rise in these areas.
Ezek 39This starts out like 38 with the same gog/ magog. God emphasizes the point through repetition. But in 39 we see the results of what is again repeated as the destruction of the army gathered. Such is the slaughter that Israelis go out burying the bodies for seven months. Whats more the carnage is so bad that a whole valley will be called hamongog and will be dedicated to burying them and the stench of it will be unbearable. For seven years the wood from the weapons will be enough to fuel Israel's fires. They will loot these invaders etc. It will be an industry that people are hired to undertake the burying of the dead. A law will be passed requiring travelers to mark any bones they see and report the location. Now this sounds more like the mess that ends the tribulation period with Jesus picking up the stranded on the mountain top. It is that the opening verses change slightly from chapter 38 which implies that the full force of the host of the Gog/Magog and company will come down on the city. It also doesnt mention the "estate" of the nation at this time. Compare 39:2 with 38:4. Please note that in the King James Version there appears to be an addition about leaving the sixth part of this "horde" of attackers. In the Stutsgard Hebrew version no mention of this made in fact these two verses in the original hebrew are, for all parts and practical purposes, identical. Now when God wants to make a point, just like parents, He will reitterate. This is reitteration. However the rest of the verse goes into great detail about the result of the slaughter and does not mention a people who are AT REST in the land and that they are from OTHER NATIONS or considered GENTILE. Instead He promises destruction on those who live CARELESSLY in the ISLES. I have to conclude that this maybe two identical occasions of the same battle. You see Satan brings a host against the realestate of the Temple mount TWICE!

Joel 2 is all about an invasion. It starts with the army coming down the mountains like a locust swarm and just like a swarm seemoingly not breaking rank one sees no gaps in the swarm. They enter in over walls through windows which is nothing short of shock and awe. Shock and awe is where they come house to house kick in doors and do whatever to the occupants within. Walls are mentioned here so this passage does nto fit with the Ezekiel passages of an invasion on an UNWALLED CITY. Moreover as you continue to read the chapter switches from this horrendous shock and awe to a promise that in a later day the land will be fruitful and yet it switches again to a dark gloomy day...along with this is the famous promise of the outpourng of the Holy spirit on ... everyone. That promise is fulfilled by the way. Yet the day wherein the moon turns to blood the sun to darkness and pillars of fire and smoke... (where have we seen the fire and smoke before? EXODUS!) This is God manifest! But where have we also heard of the moon and the sun and their "problems"? Matthew 24.(Mat 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:)

Zech 12 Though perhaps in part some of this seems to be happening now what with Israeli palestinian controversies of who owns what and where or the land deals... yet as you read on the things written therein make little sense as it stands now. However verses 10-14 are the explanation. The outpouring of grace and supplication comes with the appearing of Jesus. They will see Him... they will mourn.(Zech 12:12) (Mat_24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.) There is only one time when that can happen. When He comes to take His own on Mt Olivet. This carries on all the way to 13:5 wherein the prophetic will be no more... why? Now we see in a glass darkly but then face to face.(1 Cor 13:12) In the now we find ourselves in need of the prophets ear and tongue. But in those days which ideally should be the millenial reign or the lead up to it. Now please note there is a major battle gathering not once but twice against Jerusalem. One before wherein the beast is locked away for a season... one after wherein the beast goes into the lake of fire permanently.

It is important to note some things here:
Zec 12:7 Jehovah also shall save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of those living in Jerusalem may not be magnified above Judah.
Zec 12:8 In that day Jehovah shall protect around those living in Jerusalem. And it will be, he who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of Jehovah before them.

There is an order here, for out of Judah comes the "scepter of rule" thus Judah is glorified as the Firstborn of the Sons of Israel and the inherant ruling tribe. Also note that the apparent feeble willbe like David. David was a warrior/king he had on him the anointing of the Gaborim or Mighty Ones. The scriptures tell of a time when David did so much hand to hand combat that they had to pry the weapon out of his hand because it had locked on the grip of his sword such was his energy strength and furocity on that day. Anyone else in better physical fitness of the Davidic line would be like God... or a holyone. ( Dont foget that Jesus is the Angel fo the Lord in all Old Testament scriptures, it's a Christophany.)

Zeph 1 records a pledge of action. God is going to lay waste to everyone and all the animals they use on account of those who worship the "nogods" Zeph 1:15 however opens the narrative of how it will be done. It is erily familiar to Joel 2. It is forseeable that the Assyrian assault that ultimately wiped out the ten tribes replacing them with a foriegn people who by Jesus day had intemingled to become Samaritans. This assault was masive and it may have been a first fulfillment but the 70 ad sack of Jerusalem was the next fulfillment of a sort. Both were "dreary hard" days of Judgement.Zeph 2 goes on to tdefine a catastophe of epic proportion which leaves a barren wilderness behind, this sounds very much like the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. It also sounds like the wars of the crusades over Jerusalem of taking losing retaking and ultimately losing Jerusalem to the Turks and Muslims until 1948 put Israel back on the map and 1967 put Jerusalem in Israeli control.
However it can also be representative of a Yom Ha Din. When God returns and dishes out retribution. Now
Zeph 3*-20 radically changes tone. Its picture is one after a great conflagration. This one verse is the key. Zep 3:8 Therefore, wait for Me, declares Jehovah, for the day I rise up to the prey. For My judgment is to gather the nations, for Me to gather the kingdoms, to pour My fury out on them, all My hot anger. For all the earth shall be burned up with the fire of My jealousy. compare with this:
2Pe 3:12 looking for and hastening the coming of the Day of God, through which the heavens having been set afire will be dissolved; and burning, the elements will melt? (KJV Melt with fervent heat.) of course one does not destroy wherein one does not again create...2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
God goes on to state that a people of PURE LANGUAGE to praise Him will be gathered. All the sorrowful, gathered and interestingly enough He names also Ethiopia His supplicants... They have long spoken of having the Ark... There was a flight with Ethiopian Falasha Jews.... the air was a no fly zone on that day while a certain plane was in flight. The whole rest of the chapter speaks to either a millenial Israel or the one in which the Great City the Temple of God in all the Earth stands...

Hosea 4:6 (4:1-6) Hos 4:1 Sons of Israel, hear the Word of Jehovah, for Jehovah has a quarrel with those living in the land; for there is no truth, and no mercy, and no knowledge of God in the land.
Hos 4:2 Swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and the committing of adultery increase. And blood touches against blood. Hos 4:3 On account of this the land shall mourn, and every one living in it shall droop, with the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven; yes, also the fish of the sea shall be removed.
Hos 4:4 Yet let not a man strive with nor reprove a man. For your people are as a priest striven with.
Hos 4:5 And you shall stumble in the day, and the prophet also shall stumble with you at night, and I will cut off your mother.
Hos 4:6 My people are cut off for lack of knowledge. Because you rejected the knowledge, I also rejected you from being priest to Me. Since you have forgotten the Law of your God, I will forget your sons, even I.
Hos 4:7 As they were increased, so they sinned against Me. I will change their glory into shame.
Hos 4:8 They eat up the sin of My people, and they lift their vitality to their iniquity.
Hos 4:9 And it will be, Like people, like priest. And I will visit their ways on them and repay them for their deeds.
Hos 4:10 For they shall eat and not have enough. They shall fornicate and not increase, because they have ceased heeding Jehovah.
Hos 4:11 Fornication and wine and new wine take away the heart.
Hos 4:12 My people seek advice by their wooden idols, and their rod declares to them. For the spirit of harlotry has led them astray, and they fornicated from under their God.
Hos 4:13 They sacrifice on the tops of the mountains and burn incense on the hills, under oak and poplar and terebinth, because its shade is good. On account of this, your daughters shall prostitute, and your brides shall commit adultery.
Hos 4:14 I will not punish your daughters when they fornicate, nor your brides when they commit adultery. For the men themselves go aside with harlots, and they sacrifice with temple prostitutes. The people who do not understand are thrust down.
Hos 4:15 Israel, though you fornicate, do not let Judah become guilty. And do not come to Gilgal, nor go up to Beth-aven, nor swear, As Jehovah lives. Hos 4:16 For Israel rebels, like a rebellious heifer. Now Jehovah will feed them as a lamb in a roomy place. Hos 4:17 Ephraim is joined to idols. Let him alone.
Hos 4:18 Their drink is sour. They are continually fornicating. Her shields dearly love shame.
Hos 4:19 The wind binds her up in her wings, and they shall be ashamed because of their sacrifices.

The portion of scripture in Hosea 4:6a My People Perish for a lack of knowlege... is the twin to the first verse part b "for there is no truth, and no mercy, and no knowledge of God in the land." It is inconcievable for Americans in this day and age to think of looking at a wooden statue and asking its to save them to bless them or is it? Consider certain religious practices of ceramic images of Mary or Joseph or in other cultures the gods of their ancestral heritage like the neo african revival amongst some of the liberal afro-american blacks today. Consider Voodoo or Ras or some of the Latin cultural religious traditions. So maybe its not to inconceivable but then we also have the electronic gods that actually do answer back with information and dialogue but are still powerless to save. You have a smart phone? You may have Siri or the droid version.
But be this as it may (we all have computers and the internet and spend our whole days on them when some portion might have been prayer) there is a patented lack of knowlege where knowlege should have abounded. Why? Look at the rest of 4:6 "Because you rejected the knowledge, I also rejected you from being priest to Me. Since you have forgotten the Law of your God, I will forget your sons, even I." Because they rejected knowlege so then the knowlege is here in the church house but we are rejecting it. It is in those book we carry or the applications of the book on our palm pilots, smart phones, computers, net books and if that all fails and an internet connection exists... online! But we have those itchy ears and we only want the selections of quote from that book and not the whole counsel therein.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Moreover...
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
2Ti 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
2Ti 3:9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
This is the mindset of the generation or the times of a people who tend to think like this ans be like this.

This is their character

Jud 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. ...
Jud 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Jud 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
Jud 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
Jud 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jud 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Jud 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jud 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jud 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jud 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

Of The End Times Jesus States

Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Remember Christ also means Anointed One. From Messiah or Anointed One. What is the main message of Christ? "Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand" The message is going to be similar in that all of Christendom is listening for the words "The Kingsoms of this world are become the Kingdoms of God and His Christ" It will be a call to gather and participate in the building of the Kingdom authority on Earth. Owing to that we know very little of the Millenial Reign in its infancy and what it should be like when He comes (for real) anyone can come and do certain miraculous things and make a proclamation. Notice to that in Revelation 13:12-13 the second beast does stuff by the authority of the first. Inother words an unholy church can do things like calling down fire in the authority or even presence of the ten horned one. This is the like the power of the believer in Christ and it is very convincing. Those who do not see as Jesus sees will be "led astray" to "fall away" from "The Faith". How many movements have taken place in recent years? Cults and other religious exploration of "getting to God" are on the rise. The "Blood of the Lamb" is on the wane... we now have an activist social gosepl in place of the real deal.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. All this is isn't even the beginning of the tribulation. But as I recently commented to a friend of mine and as all women who have given birth naturally know labor increases from its onset to what is called har labor wherein it seems that you hardly catch your breath before the next contraction hits and takes it away again. But now the thing is that the contractions start but you cant push. They increase but you still cant push. They comine to a state of ferocity wherein your every fibre is begging to push to get it ove with to have that baby out and you may still NOT BE ALLOWED to push. But there does suddenly come that moment wherein thye say the magic words of so many centimeters dilated and tell you "on the nest contraction PUSH!" At that moment you are in labor and delivery and IT'S STILL NOT OVER! Not until the first shrill cryof the baby now taking in air and opening the lungs by crying out ans the last contraction that passes out the placenta (Think yoke egg lovers) are you finally DELIVERED and DONE. Now considering this and my appologies for the squeemish but this is PRECESELY why He uses that analogy. This process of onset unto regular rhythm of increased intentisty and shortening intervals between contraction that is the sugnal to go to where the baby will be delivered and set in for the long haul till its born can take days. There can be pains that are not the real thing (braxton-hicks) which are an anoyance and can sometime be debilitating. No not until the "water breaks" are you truly in labor pains. Now place this analogy of informatiopn over the current events of the last decade... has the "water broken"? Is it go time for labor and delivery? Finally what is the result? What do we give birth to?
Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. and then... comes the persecution. Its not your government tearing down the church building anymore or your boss making you squirm under company policy or threats of job loss or even sexual harrassment now. No its being hunted as a wanted fugitive from law ans justice. A law and justice that has radically changed. Your crime is ... being a Believer! iniquity or the wrokings of the evil intent of the heart out in the open and brazenly will change the complexion of the heart. Even in the Holocaust the Jew had sympathizers. In this sympathizers may be one of us who have yet to be found out because the god of this world is controling the minds and hearts of EVERYONE ELSE pretty much. In short the holocaust was bad this willbe much worse.
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: Now comes the tribulation the days of Jacob's trouble. All this happens and then.
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Here is the warning...
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. Because the King comes in a moment and His coming is establishment of The Kingdom on Earth then there is no coming to set up a Kingdom. If the body doesnt become transformed and they are saying Jesus has come. It isnt Jesus and to come out of hiding is a trap! n Here is the SIGN... Yet He tells us (Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.) Is it any wonder that the Jewish "messianic" community of the day thought the Lord would return when Temple was sacked for the second time and this time the grounds were razed?
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Dont forget His statement in Lk 10:18)
Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (AFTER the tribulation of a set amount of days that if they were not forshortened none would survive...)
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. (Rev 1:7)
Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Look at below at the selection as close as two people rubbing shoulders together in the work place or perhaps in a more intimate setting.)
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. (Rev_3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and didst hear; and keep it, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Rev_16:15 (Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.) Rev_3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and didst hear; and keep it, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with rushing sound, and having burned the elements will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be burned up. Thieves come without warning suddenly quickly and they do their deeds and leave just as fast as they came)
Mat 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Mat 24:45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
Mat 24:46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Mat 24:47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
Mat 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
Mat 24:49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
Mat 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

And again

Luk 21:7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?
Luk 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
Luk 21:9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
Luk 21:10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
Luk 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
Luk 21:13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
Luk 21:14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
Luk 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
Luk 21:16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
Luk 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
Luk 21:18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
Luk 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Luk 21:21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
Luk 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Luk 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. (Rev 1:7)
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Luk 21:29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
Luk 21:30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
Luk 21:31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
Luk 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. Luk 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. Luk 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. Luk 21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

So now we have a sign of the times template.

Now we are hitting present knowledge.

Right now Earthquakes have been in the news for since 2011 at least.... Christ Church, Haiti, In some of the latin countries of South America... Japan... to sday the least... and yes a tsunami which is what ruined Japan for the most part in its country side areas IS a quake. Its just under the sea. So we have all the Quakes... what about wars nations and kingdoms rising up against each other? Or what about rumor of war. Well Rumor may no longer be an appropriate way to put it... not with todays television tech and the internet but still there is talk of war and war going on right now in the middle east. Think also aqbout the econmic mess several nations are in right now and gthe rioting and battles over that right now. So far two major factors are in place.
Offendeness: Falling away: there is a lot of upheaval in the church right now. Morever go to your church worship leader who patently does NOT sing about the BLOOD. Ask if the choir can sing just one song per worship service and just even one time to honor Christ's sacrifice of His BLOOD. The response should have offendeness in its tone. Try to move from a social gospel to a actual gospel and you will find pastors want numbers and money and not to OFFEND folks. Try to discuss GRACE with legalistic churches... come prepared to be cast out. (WHY?) 1Tim 4 all,2Tim 4:3-4.Jude... read them and see the thinking of the people of that age... this age... more over read hosea 4... start at verse 6. (Why do the people perish for lack of knowlege? Is it that none can be found or is it something else?)

Now lets look at a comparison for a moment.(Luk_10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.) Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
A bright flash of light, we have all seen lightening. So we understand about the appearing, but there are two. Jesus has seen the adversary fall like lightening. Jesus comes into this corporeal realm and the power He releases is as a lightening flash, signaling His return. (Do you see the difference? We dont sleep but are changed in the twinkling of an eye.) The question is when does the Devil fall? Is it Rev chapt 12 Is it from the time when he was punished for his role in the fall of man? Seems to me we will be needing to be looking at the last Template. The Revelation events template.

Before that though, one more thing. The desolation. Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Seems the key is a surrounding on all sides by enemies WHEN THERE IS A TEMPLE BUILT. Previously we read that Antiochus Epiphanes defiled the Temple and errected a Zeus. At that time Israel had temple and was SURROUNDED BY HER ENEMIES. Once again Rome SURROUNDS ISRAEL or rather JERUSALEM. This time the desolation is DESTRUCTION. Later she is beseiged again and what gets built there? Al Aqsa Mosque. Actually the Christian influence was the first thing to be built there. A church to the Virgin called Church of Our Lady was built there in the 530sby Emporer Justinian but in the 700s an Emporer of the Persian Sasanid Empire tore it down and left it in ruins.Where there had simply been Roman rule which gave way to Christian rule as the Gentiles trod underfoot the Holy place there was not the formidable enemy of today, ISLAM. Some where in the early 600s a small quandrangular edifice went up at the order of a caliph. In the 600s and 700s it was renovated. Two Earth quakes on the Temple mount took down the structures of the day. One in 746 destroyed the first building but they rebuilt. in 1033 another destroyed most of the now multiply renovated Mosque but they re- renovated and the final result stands to this day. (This proves and active fault line under the Temple Mount one that could possibly triger a massive quake leveling Jerusalem.) To this hour in 2012 that mosque remains. But while this is its own desolation and thus a second fulfillment of this prophecy there is yet one more as outlined in Rev 11 at the rising of the witnesses.(Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.) *pay special attention to the 15th verse as the kingdoms of this world are become ...of the Lord and his Christ and He shall reign for ever and ever.

And again

Luk 17:20 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God cometh, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Luk 17:21 neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you. Luk 17:22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it. Luk 17:23 And they shall say to you, Lo, there! Lo, here! go not away, nor follow after them: The kingdom comes not with observation. It isnt a figure who rises from the gestalt of humanity to a pinnacle of power, place and position to receive the "Dragon" and become a "Messiah". For there are two appearings of Christ. One we know the Redeemer on the cross to seek and to save. The other is The King... the rider on the white horse with many crowns out of whose mouth goes the sword that destroys. The Kingdom comes suddenly without warning The Living God steps into reality and power is released so that those with Him can "cross through" or become corporeal. This is the resurrection power that also transforms in the blink of the eye.Its not Earthly and has no advanced campaign or new religion in it. It is simply the King coming and in His appearing the Kingdom ... IS! So when we are enticed to come and see ... it is a trap laid out to ensare us for in that day only those who call upon His name will be save and this gospel will be being preached globally by the "beautiful feet" of the ones who "bring the Good News". Just as Jerusalem was truck and the Early CHurch began to spread so too will the church be struck again and though the work of the Kingdom is by and large stopped by His Spirit He will lead us all over the world to gather in the harvest to seek and save the ELECT LOST. Luk 17:24 for as the lightning, when it lighteneth out of the one part under the heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall the Son of man be in his day. (like the thief in the night in the instant of crossing to this corporeal realm is the lightening the herald of incredible power breaking forth) Luk 17:25 But first must he suffer many things and be rejected of this generation. ( Here is the Crucifixion prophecy) Luk 17:26 And as it came to pass in the days of Noah, even so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. (Bussiness as usual) Luk 17:27 They ate, they drank, they married, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Luk 17:28 Likewise even as it came to pass in the days of Lot; they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; Luk 17:29 but in the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all: Now look at this carefully. How was Sodom destroyed and why Sodom and not Sodom and Gomorah? Sodom was destroyed by the release of "something" that rained a fire and brimstone on it. So here is the gestalt of humanity going about bussiness as usual and suddenly all hell breaks loose. In many passages when the King comes there tumlt of the Earth as in massive quakes where in mountains flee away or tectonic plates so shift that mountain plates flow under vally plates and old mountains are gone and new ones formed in "another place". Luk 17:30 after the same manner shall it be in the day that the Son of man is revealed. Luk 17:31 In that day, he that shall be on the housetop, and his goods in the house, let him not go down to take them away: and let him that is in the field likewise not return back. Luk 17:32 Remember Lot's wife. Luk 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to gain his life shall lose it: but whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. Luk 17:34 I say unto you, In that night there shall be two men on one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Luk 17:35 There shall be two women grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Luk 17:36 There shall be two men in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Luk 17:37 And they answering say unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Where the body is, thither will the eagles also be gathered together. Here is the first use of the verse He will later quote to His disciples. One key here is that it iwll be "business as usual". 1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first; 1Th 4:17 then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (Rev 1:7) 1Co 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another flesh of birds, and another of fishes. 1Co 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 1Co 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differeth from another star in glory. 1Co 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 1Co 15:43 it is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 1Co 15:44 it is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. And this is the whole rapture thing.... there is a key here in 1Cor 15:44 ...it is a spiritual body... but it is also (1 Cor 15:42) Incorruption... or immortal. Now for the purposes of this document I want to divide the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ into two parts. The Book and the Template. However because of the nature of this particular book of dcripture and the warning laid therin i will have to also do a seperate study on the book itself so as to not exclude from it anything lest i should lose my place in glory. But also to add noting to it lest the plagues of Egypt should befall me. If you dont believe me, "Rev 22:18 I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto them, God shall add unto him the plagues which are written in this book: Rev 22:19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book.", believe that! Here in this part of the site i will major on what i see to be a template of the last days. A template ois that which sets a standard of measurement or form. This particular method of presenting the chapters from 4 forward gives a sequence of events. A special note. The late night news broadcast of November 29 2012 announced that the United Nations had by majority vote proclaimed Palenstine its own STATEHOOD. Now a State in the UN is also known as a Nation in the world. So now at long last the final player in this mellodrama is set. Palenstine the land of the Philistines has arisen again. pre-millenial, post-millenial, amillenial, pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, one phase rapture, two phase rapture apparently these are the camps opf thought concerning harpedzo or the catching away rechristened the rapture. Beyond that there are two schools of thought concerning the whole book literal and allegorical. I wont go there i will just lay out the verses in the order they appear. For the whole study Open this book.

Identifying A Beast Or Two.

Rev 13:1 And I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten diadems, and on its heads names of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, and its feet as of a bear, and its mouth as a lion's mouth. And the dragon gave its power to it, and its throne, and great authority. Until i looked at Old Testament scriptures such as Daniel I paid little attention to the references. But because nothing is hidden in the Word... look at the description of our beast number one. The leopard we have seen before in Dan 7 and this was a leopard with four wings or Macedonia which is part of the Grecian Empire. The feet tend towards the places it goes or what it walks in and we have seen the bear as well in Dan 7 and that was Medo-Persia which is now Iran. Now the mouth tends toward what it says and or how it says things as in the boldness of a lion, or ferocity of the tiger. But the Lion with Wings was also seen in Dan 7 adn that was Babylon of Assyria or, I believe, may be Iraq. Now what do most all these regions now have in common? Islam. However the Greeks were famous for the body of intellectual stuff and argument, whereas the Persians are often seen as more mystical perhaps and to speak like a lion or Babylonian means spirtualism and we have another lion in scripture, Jesus and this beast IS trying to impersonate Jesus. This beast is the leader beast as i will call him/her (it would a major cosmic joke with all the eschatologists being wrong if its a woman! hah!) because along with all this there are the ten horns and the diadems or crowns of rule. There are seven names of blasphemy on the horns and unless i miss my guess the only reason they are blasphemous is not because they are profane names or titles but because those titles only apply to The Living God. More specifically titles belonging to Jesus as KING. It is empowered by The Dragon whose identity we know as the Accuser of the Brethren, or Satan. Thus this is what the Accuser enters on Earth when he is thrown down. It has seven heads or is head of seven and ten horns or perhaps as the horn is symbolic of power, armies??? What ever that power is it is the power to hold rule. Moreover is arises from the sea of the seashore where John is standing... I have been shown that he writer is identifying himself with Israel and the nations saurrounding are like a sea to the terra firma of the Promised Land. Only time will tell if i go this right. beast number two. This one comes from the earth itself. it has two horns like a lamb... stop right there... since when do lambs have horns? But we have also seen this before in Dan 8:3 the ram with uneven horns. This ram was medo-persia or a combined rulership each vying for dominance. Now then applying that rule of image to this beast and we have a mixed rule or presence or even message. Recall that Daniel's ram was also the leopard of the kings. In that John uses the word lamb he is being specific that it mimics The Lamb. But its speaks as the Dragon. This means its is openly satanic. Another side note here, if you look at ( thought lost)
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of its heads, as having been slain to death, and its deadly wound was healed. And all the earth wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like the beast; who is able to make war with it?
Rev 13:5 And a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies was given to it. And authority to act forty two months was given to it. Rev 13:6 And it opened its mouth in blasphemy toward God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, and those tabernacling in Heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given to it "to war with the saints, and to overcome them." And authority was given to it over every tribe and tongue and nation. Dan. 7:21
Rev 13:8 And all those dwelling in the earth will worship it, those of whom the names had not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb having been slain from the foundation of the world.

Now The Revelation Events Template.

Due to the face that at the end of this book there is both a blessing and curse for the handling and or translating and or perhaps exposition of this book I do have on a separate document a study on the Churches. See Doubt Drift to read it.

We start with the fourth chapter in that the Lamb comes and receives the scroll and the seals begin to be loosed. Then we move to chapter five because here is where we begin to see the result.
Now a scroll with seals means whatever is wriiten within a seal at some point in the readable part preceding there would be instruction as to when if ever to break the wax seal.Thus we have the factor of the dimension of time playing into it. These seals have corresponding results immediately as we will see. A note of warning here. This book is tied to a prophecy. If one reads it as a whole or speaks on it as a whole they are ok. If you detract from it you may find yourself losing salvation or at least being somehow damned. TO add to it means the plagues of Egypt are added to you. So using the book in this manner is risky to me to say the least so may this line of thought be inspired of God. The fourth chpater is picturesque it describes the throne room and the activity in it leading up to the entrance of the Lamb. Ezekiel saw this throne from beneath and John sees it from atop. The "thing" seen here is ONE AND THE SAME.

The issues in the Throne room is this: "who is worthy enough to open the scroll? Why worthy and not just able? The scroll is the judgement of God upon the whole Earth. If we had pause to think in terms of modalism where in One Deity plays multiple parts or that there is no Son or that Jesus whom John the Baptist calls the Lamb of God (Joh_1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Joh_1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!) this ought to put it to rest. The grand search is on for the One who is Worthy to perform a task it may be supposed the One seated on the Throne could do but doesnt. Worthy not merely able is the criteria. John as he is in spirit viewing all this is moved to tears because there is apparently noone found worthy enough in heaven on earth or under the earth. No thing not human animal mineral plant nothing is ABLE to open this scroll's seals. But the originating call was for who was WORTHY not ABLE.
In the greek there are two defintions also:
Worthy:G514 axios Thayer Definition: 1) weighing, having weight, having the weight of another thing of like value, worth as much 2) befitting, congruous, corresponding to a thing 3) of one who has merited anything worthy 3a) both in a good and a bad sense Part of Speech: adjective Interestingly it root has to do with this:
G71 ago Thayer Definition: 1) to lead, take with one 1a) to lead by laying hold of, and this way to bring to the point of destination: of an animal 1b) to lead by accompanying to (into) a place 1c) to lead with one’s self, attach to one’s self as an attendant 1d) to conduct, bring 1e) to lead away, to a court of justice, magistrate, etc. 2) to lead 2a) to lead, guide, direct 2b) to lead through, conduct to: to something 2c) to move, impel: of forces and influences on the mind 3) to pass a day, keep or celebrate a feast, etc. 4) to go, depart Part of Speech: verb
By virtue of the Cross is not Jesus as the Lamb laid hold of and led? In Salvation does He now not lead us? But the axios is also speaking of weight having the wieght of value thus having worth. This pertains to GLORY. The heavy glory of God.

Where As ABLE:

G1410 dunamai Thayer Definition: 1) to be able, have power whether by virtue of one’s own ability and resources, or of a state of mind, or through favourable circumstances, or by permission of law or custom 2) to be able to do something 3) to be capable, strong and powerful Part of Speech: verb
Capable or with strength enough for the task at hand.

In fact noone was able not only to open the book but even to look on it. But in comes one who is...
Rev 5:5 And one of the elders said to me, Do not weep. Behold, the Lion being of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, overcame so as to open the scroll, and to loose its seven seals.
Now consider this is the Lion the Root who OVERCAME so as to open... no mention of worth or ability here it is ASSUMED. So who is our mystery guest? (All the little ones shout Jesus!) How do we know this? Look at the clues. The Root of David.Isa_53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. Interestingly enough it is Jesse that is used in the original prophecy...Isa_11:1 And there shall come forth a shoot out of the stock of Jesse, and a branch out of his roots shall bear fruit.
Isa_11:10 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the root of Jesse, that standeth for an ensign of the peoples, unto him shall the nations seek; and his resting-place shall be glorious.
But both David the King unto whom the promise is made of a king inperpetuum is made and then there is Jesus who is of Davidic heritage in both parental lines. See Matthew and Luke one respectively.
Lion: there is no mention of this title in the Old Testament but look at the things that are of said of Judah the man by his father at death: Gen 49:9 Judah is a lion's whelp. My son, you have risen up from the prey; he stoops, he crouches like a lion; and like a lioness, who can rouse him? Gen 49:10 The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the lawmaker from between his feet, until Shiloh come, and the obedience of the peoples to him. The LawMaker Shiloh
Brown Driver Briggs H7886 shiloh 1) he whose it is, that which belongs to him, tranquillity 1a) meaning uncertain Part of Speech: noun?
As if to seal out doubt there is mention of the foal the ass's colt upon whom Jesus rode.
Gen 49:11 Binding his foal to the vine, and his ass's colt to the choice vine, he washes his clothing in wine, and his covering in the blood of grapes. (Finally the reference of His Judgment...)
Gen 49:12 His eyes shall be dark from wine and his teeth white from milk. (Isa 63:1 Who is this who comes from Edom with dyed garments from Bozrah, this One adorned in His clothing, bending in His great power? It is I, speaking in righteousness, mighty to save!
Isa 63:2 Why is Your clothing red, and Your garments like one who treads in the winepress?
Isa 63:3 I have trodden the winepress, I alone, and no man of the peoples was with Me. And I will tread them in My anger, and trample them in My fury; and their juice shall be spattered on My garments; and I will pollute all My clothes.
Isa 63:4 For the day of vengeance is in My heart, and the year of My redeemed has come.
Isa 63:5 And I looked, and no one was helping. And I wondered that no one was upholding. Then My own arm saved for Me, and My fury upheld Me.
Isa 63:6 And I tread down peoples in My anger, and made them drunk in My fury. And I poured their juice to the earth.)
One last clue.
The one who overcame.
Joh_16:33 These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Now lets see what John saw with all this introduction.One would expect it to be a lion right? Wrong.... this is what John saw..."in the midst of the elders, was a Lamb standing, as having been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, having been sent out into all the earth.

" What?!! what was John smoking?! Well lest we forget this isnt Earth this is Heaven and in Heaven things are little ... different...
But we have seen "in Spirit" before... in Daniel and he saw the goat and the ram with horns... Horns pertains to POWER the ability to do AND PERMISSION to right to do it in. First off in seeing a LAMB we know right off who it is.... refer to John the Baptist's statement. But then all this other stuff.... he has seven horns and eyes which are the seven spirits of God... no if we really wanted to see the distinct persons in action of the Trinity we need look no further.... Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us. And we beheld His glory, glory as of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and of truth.
Col_2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. but seven horns and eyes? SEVEN SPIRITS? Isa_11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; This what we see.... all the wisdom understanding counsel knowlege and might or power but the Hebrew word Geburah also includes valor bravery and mighty deeds. None can contest the mightiest deed was done on the Cross.
So the eyes of wisdom understanding and knowlege with the horns of might and all the other implied as being part of the Spirit... and we realize also that this Lamb is slain from BEFORE the foundation of the world in Genesis... considered as slain or actually slain in some manner may be irrelevant, but before the fall or even the first creating of anything is... think about it.
It also tells us in what era this is happening. THis is happening after PENTECOST. For after Pentecost we know The Spirit was poured out sent from the Father and the Son. He is the Spirit of Adoption whereby we cry out Abba Father(Rom_8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.Gal_4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.)sent by the Son (Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may be with you for ever, Joh 14:17 even the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for he abideth with you, and shall be in you. Joh 14:18 I will not leave you desolate: I come unto you.)
These are two independant persons interacting look at Rev 5:7. They even change the song for this!
(Where as before you heard them saying Holy Holy Holy Lord God Almight.... now they are saying Worthy is the Lamb to take the book... you see?

In chapter Six we see the beginning of the seals breaking open. One yields the white horse and arrowless bowed rider. One of the living creatures says in a thunderous voice "COME". Now traditionally we think that it is John being called to come see but if you watch the seals break you will find John records that all four of the creatures in turn say the same thing and this is the result.
Seal two yields the Red Horse whose coming creates a real havoc of war as PEACE is taken from the EARTH. If you thought the violence was bad now?
Seal three yields: the black horse whose rider has scales and with it a chilling piece of news for all us grocery shoppers."Rev 6:6 And I heard as it were a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, A measure of wheat for a shilling, and three measures of barley for a shilling; and the oil and the wine hurt thou not." A lot has been put into...this hurt not passage. Some have said tip not the oil or wine vessels because they will be so expensive and precious. Others like Jamieson Faucett and Brown have said that the same injustic done to bread should not be done to oil or wine wherein these luxuries would be of comfort to men in suffering. But Gill says something I think is worthy of mention."...others understand them in an allegorical sense, of the principal doctrines of the Gospel, comparable to oil and wine, and which Christ takes care of, that they shall not be hurt and destroyed by heretics and false teachers, even when they prevail the most, and bring on a famine of the word, and when the church is blackened and darkened with them; and indeed these may much better be applied to the Gospel, than, as they are by the Jews, to the law; who frequently say that the law is called "oil", and speak of ???? ?? ????, "the wine of the law""
Though i hold only lightly to this interpretaion there is plausibilty for in that the PEACE is taken and CORRUPTION is come LAWLESSNESS would abound and The Law the most precious commodity of all would be needed FREELY.
My two cents is this based on current understanding... scarecity. Some scarecity will drive up prices like grain. But there can be an abundance of a thing that is used for another purpose and not commonly available any longer. OIL. Oil runs machines. Machines of war which will be global if not a global war at least major warfare on all fronts all over the world as the sense here is diplomacy just isnt working like it used to. On the other hand we have to interject this. There is either in effect or coming into effect an SEVEN YEAR peace for Israel. (Middle of the week -selah) So there is an EFFORCED PEACE somewhere. Now if military battle is eating into oil, that not lubricates but we refine the oil into FUEL to run the things in the first place, then what is there for the civilians? Keep in mind if the regualr gas prices rise what happens? Civilian UNREST. In a time when it seems there is little or no provocation needed for a man to become violent (Just consider the hazard for the police and the hours and manhours and manequipment including transport PLUS MORE GAS) then do we really as a national leader want to fust with this price of a gallon of gas? "Well no" you say. Well if all these entities are using the crude oil refined into FUEL where else can fuel be gotten from???? GRAIN! You see folks until they started turning from "fossil fuel" to new alternatives like ETHANOL cameinto being the idea of grain prices raising bread prices was difficult to percieve. Now with ethanol becomeing more and more popular... and hybrid cars coming into vogue... well if someone else is using all the fossil fuel gas or most of it then we are eating into the grain harvests for ETHANOL. Bread gets really expensive.
Consider also please the lowly generator. It too will eat the gasoline including ethanol types... and when things start being torn up by war and electric gets in short supply oh those generators will be being used... and bread gets more expensive...
Oil is also a commodity not to be messed with because for the war effort it needs to affordable that way and for use in many other things it needs to be affordable but i have to ponder food oil and the problems inherant in shipping it during a war torn era. Still you let God be the judge of this. It is but my two cents.

The point is the injustice of supplies and that leads to the fourth seal.

Seal four with its call to come or come forth from the fourth of the living creatures is the pale horse. Pale as in deathly and on it are two riders together Death and Hades or HELL. Of course it actually says the Hades follows after this rider so perhaps its a horse with rider and a ghostly apparition hard on the heels of, either way in releasing death Hell is right along with.

If you think on it you are looking at an cause and effect scenario. First the conqueror comes to rule without firing a shot... weapon with ammo = bloodless coup. In the wake of this will be massive convulsions of war (red horse) and for the masses to have no peace means there will be no Switzerlands in this, everyone will be forced to take a side and stand in it. This major a division will cause injustice like summer hurricane to simply flood down. Such war and injustice will cause FAMINE. But while this might be the end of the righteous (but God keeps and preserves in the midst of all the Very Elect) its the damned who are dropping like flies. They are on battle field ( oh yes and by the way Bread can also be food in general but what about those soldiers? Dont they deserve some of our national bread? And the price of bread skyrockets) in the streets in their homes. Death is everywhere. As the population is thining out nad not coming to Christ but rather resisting Grace they are filling up HADES and HELL actually is coming to claim its own! Now you might think me cold in that last statement about depolulation but blame God, He says it ... not me. Rev 6:8b"And authority was given to them to kill over the fourth of the earth with sword, and with famine, and with death, and by the wild beasts of the earth." One fourth depopulation of everything! People and animals wild and domestic!

Latest official current world population estimate, for mid-year 2011, is estimated at 7,021,836,029. http://geography.about.com/od/obtainpopulationdata/a/worldpopulation.htm Thats people. Is there any census on animals ( maybe global domestic but who has the time and all those countries that are insanely rural)? Consider the famine states in places like The Sudan. Drought and disease from massive warfare is common and a global amount will globally effect a quarter of the populace of the world without batting the eyelash.

Now because of the nature of these horsemen it may by Earthly consideration not be seen as "from God" just another lousy econmic disaster and that right there could be a major trigger! The only difference could be an attitudinal change on the part of the general populace regarding Christians. But we see this now. WHy say this? Because in seal five we have this tableu in heaven. Pay attention folks. The souls In the greek psuche or breath or sentience or what have you, this much is for certain they dont have corporeal bodies of any sort. They appear to be under the alter. Now to understand all that you need to see what John is on from someone else's perspective... Ezekiel's. Here is this man standing on a river bank and a massive windstorm starts up and of course Ezekiel is in the Spirit (i dont think he knew it at that point) basically he sees what i like to call God's mobile Throne. but its the undercarriage that is of interest here. Eze 1:4 And I looked, and, behold, a stormy wind came out of the north, a great cloud, with a fire infolding itself, and a brightness round about it, and out of the midst thereof as it were glowing metal, out of the midst of the fire.(ASV)... as the colour of amber...(KJV) He saw incidently the same living creatures John saw but.... these were on FIRE. Eze 1:13 As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, like the appearance of torches: the fire went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning. I will put forth that the undercarriage of the Throne also has with it the brazier or altar. Be that as it may Ezekiel also saw the sea of glass...Eze 1:22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above. And John saw:Rev 4:6 and before the throne, as it were a sea of glass like a crystal; and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, four living creatures full of eyes before and behind. Crystal was the general consensus of two men. Now in Revelation seal five we find there are souls under the altar.
They want to know when they will be avenged for the way they died. Now think about it, you come to the faith and because you are a Christian you die. We call it martydom and we romanticize it and it may be precious because it is like the Son (but He gave His life willingly) from where i sit and perhaps God thinks so too, thats murder. If i were murdered(martyred) i might be asking when God was going to get even with those who murdered me too. Then they were given white robes and told to rest awhile longer until the number of those to be martyred as they were was done.

Seal six is of particular interest to me. This is probably the first time we on Earth will actually realize this whole reality of the Revelation of Jesus Christ is happening.
Rev 6:12 And I saw when he opened the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the whole moon became as blood;
Rev 6:13 and the stars of the heaven fell unto the earth, as a fig tree casteth her unripe figs when she is shaken of a great wind. Rev 6:14 And the heaven was removed as a scroll when it is rolled up; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the princes, and the chief captains, and the rich, and the strong, and every bondman and freeman, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 and they say to the mountains and to the rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 for the great day of their wrath is come; and who is able to stand?
Now we can lay the words of Jesus right over this and realize that this is what He is speaking of in so far as timing.

Here is the first parenthetical where the seals are being popped open and suddenly a lot of stuff happens as if to transition. This first is marked by NO WIND. Angels come and hold back the four winds or rather the four hemispheric wind patterns are stopped. No wind blows (WIND is also indicative of the Holy Spirit thus there may be a cessation of His "blowing" as it were in Believers) and a ceremony of sorts takes place. 12000 from the twelve tribes recieve a mark from God, for a grand total of 144000. IWho are they? Revelation 14 there is a description of them.
These are special individuals marked out for a purpose and they are OF THE TRIBES.
Rev 14:1 And I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on the mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty and four thousand, having his name, and the name of his Father, written on their foreheads.
Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and the voice which I heard was as the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
Rev 14:3 and they sing as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures and the elders: and no man could learn the song save the hundred and forty and four thousand, even they that had been purchased out of the earth.
Rev 14:4 These are they that were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they that follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were purchased from among men, to be the firstfruits unto God and unto the Lamb.
Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no lie: they are without blemish.

BY the way folks there is no rapture here. There are many opinion on how this book is to be interpreted. Some say it is in the seals looking in generality like the first chapter of Genesis wherein man was created and blessed and yet in the second chapter it seems as though God has the writer of Genesis (Moses?) zero in on man because there will be an event taking place there. It is also apparently written in the same manner as Deuteronomy. (perhaps a comparitive study of that book and how its laid out would yield understanding as to how this book plays out. If so then might I offer this: Deuteronomy 28 has the blessings and the curses. Now the blessings are straight forward. If you pay heed then blessed ... then comes the flip side. If you dont pay heed cursed... Now those curses are in layers. Because as you read you have one layer of curses and if that doesnt turn you around to repent and pay heed then the next layer worse than the first comes on you and if that isnt enough to persuade you to repent and pay heed then the next layer comes and on and on three layers deep. Interestingly enough there seem to be three layers of what God does... (selah)

It is from the stand point of levels of the wrath poured out that my humble study comes. As always the images patterns and sequences must fit together scripture interpreting scripture by the moving of the Holy Spirit revealing in Wisdom Truth Prophetically. This in my estimation and my qualification would be the Bachelor Biblical Studies at Trinity International University. (Having had the teaching of men and the Word handled of men and finding oft times their understanding to be quite unlike the Holy Spirit's in certain areas of scripture and that the original writer's work has been copied and translated albeit with such grace of God we are left though with some inacuracy based on linguistics, thus I could have done as well to study the book at His feet! A costly paper that degree to be sure and well worth the presentation to give credibility and yet otherwise worthless in the light of the revealing of how God Himself will understand and explain His word to a person.) For yes I bear witness however poorly God still speaks in His Spirit the Spirit of Christ and thus He has spoken and continues to make Himself heard in His Son. Why do I break into here and asy all this? Because men have their arguments about this book. I hope to simply present in the light of the sixty five books of Canonical Biblical text.

Having seen who the sealed are based on the fourteeth chapter we return to their "ceremony".
Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascend from the sunrising, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a great voice to the four angels to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Rev 7:3 saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we shall have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads. Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them that were sealed, a hundred and forty and four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the children of Israel: (verses 5,6,and 7 list the tribes) Why are they sealed is a speculative thought but my two cents is taken from the Temple Rota of a certain number of priests representing each tribe. Each Rota stands a certain amount of days one per month. They serve the Temple and approach the altar to serve the Lord. They would be the priests for the City Squared the Temple of God in the Earth. Now other commentators will link the sealing of these set number witht he next image and they are separate.

Here is where the doctrine of Rapture comes in. Everyone says that we will get out right away.
But I want to note some things here.
Rev 7:9 After these things I saw, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands;
Rev 7:10 and they cry with a great voice, saying, Salvation unto our God who sitteth on the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Rev 7:11 And all the angels were standing round about the throne, and about the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 7:12 saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, These that are arrayed in white robes, who are they, and whence came they?
Rev 7:14 And I say unto him, My lord, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they that come of the great tribulation, and they washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God; and they serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall spread his tabernacle over them.
Rev 7:16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun strike upon them, nor any heat:
Rev 7:17 for the Lamb that is in the midst of the throne shall be their shepherd, and shall guide them unto fountains of waters of life: and God shall wipe away every tear from their eyes. Where as those sealed are specific from specified tribes thus considered to be Hebrew. This is an UNSPECIFIC group they are going to be from every stripe of humanity. From every tribe tongue etc. But it is what they are wearing and what they are doing that is a dead giveaway. Remember the souls under the altar who were told to rest a little longer till the rest of the brethren to by martyred up had arrived? In the feasts there is one feast that has participants waving palm branches. Feast of Tabernacles. Here they stand those who have been martyred up from the great tribulation and they have white robes that were washed white in the blood of the Lamb. They have their own song to sing. He is quick to heal them... the wiping away of the tears...because they are in heaven in the Tabernacle or Sukkah HIS TABERNACLE they will no longer be dealing with the stuff of Earth. This is not all of us leaving because if we are raptured out when the antichrist comes to do war there will be noone to war against. So these are the martyrs of the great tribulation and the proof comes real shortly because as you will note later on the last seal triggers the first sounding of the trumps. One more note on the angels who are holding the wind back. Did you catch this? Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascend from the sunrising, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a great voice to the four angels to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Rev 7:3 saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we shall have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads. These are not NICE little baby with wings all cute cuddly little cherubs. They are possibly Cherubs but trust me when i say they are not cute cuddly. They are robed,belted with their swords and mean bussiness!
As to this group and a similar group in chapter 15 many will tell you "well this was before they became victorious." Does this follow? This first group has come out of the Great Tribulation. Like a game that when you lose your out of the game? They wont be going back in for round two... they are out. There is no antichrist yet just the white horse rider... He is not a threat and he is not killing anyone yet. Folks you have go to think it through. So let's continue.

The one with the seal has them stop so nothing is damaged while the sealing of these 144000 persons takes place. They are sealed on the forehead.
But does it say that the angels are restrained thereafter?
No it does not, does it?
Ok so party in heaven new song sung, meanwhile its getting hard to catch our breaths down here with all that wind witholding... so what's next?
silence for a half hour and when the scriptures say silence you can bet your bottom dollar it will be dramatic... no sound in heaven. (Not much air on Earth either....or just the lack of a good breeze) So what are we waiting for? Well all the talking seems to have ended for we are now past the point of no return. Up in heaven trumpets are passed out and one of the angels takes a censer.
Rev 8:3 And another angel came and stood over the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should add it unto the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
Rev 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, went up before God out of the angel's hand. I feel the need to pause right here ( yes i know the earthbound are dying for a breeze but i must pause sorry) Look at this.Psa_56:8 Thou tellest my wanderings: put thou my tears into thy bottle: are they not in thy book? Psa_39:12 Hear my prayer, O LORD, and give ear unto my cry; hold not thy peace at my tears: for I am a stranger with thee, and a sojourner, as all my fathers were. Psa_54:2 Hear my prayer, O God; give ear to the words of my mouth. Psa_55:1 To the chief Musician on Neginoth, Maschil, A Psalm of David. Give ear to my prayer, O God; and hide not thyself from my supplication. Psa_61:1 To the chief Musician upon Neginah, A Psalm of David. Hear my cry, O God; attend unto my prayer. Psa_86:1 A Prayer of David. Bow down thine ear, O LORD, hear me: for I am poor and needy. These are but a few of the prayers made for God to hear. But so that the reader may be comforted in that when we pray when we cry He not only hears but records them all. This censor is filled with such prayers and it is offered up WITH MUCH INSCENCE. Do you realize what is happening here? This is Temple in action. Remember that the Earthly was made after the "heavenly pattern" This angel is acting in place of a priest and from his hand flows the insence and the prayers as SMOKE. That is why there is silence... so we can be heard! YOU ARE HEARD!
When the sounds resume... The same angel now takes the same censor and fills it with fire from the altar and casts it to Earth. So now that the people of Earth are getting air again maybe they will wish it hadnt resumed. Along with it is thunder voices lightenings and AN EARTHQUAKE. Now this is a massive tectonic plate shift as you will shortly see. I my humbel estimation it is like a bookend and marks the transition into an era for at its end is ANOTHER LIKE QUAKE. Now The six trumps sound in rapid succession and what happens with each one takes its place. Rev 8:6 And the seven angels that had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
Rev 8:7 And the first sounded, and there followed hail and fire, mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of the earth was burnt up, and the third part of the trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. (remember the censor with fire? It was hurled at the Earth... this is its effect. A full ONE THIRD of the Earth is destroyed in it. This is ecosystems and populace and with an emphasis on the trees and grass that utilize CO2 the air got a third harder to breathe! This much loss will also effect the weather the rain cycles and forget the agricultures and the economies of the nations. They are toast!)
Rev 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; (Now we are reeling from the first loss. Remember the censor itself? Some are conical like a mountain. It hits the water and would punch into the mantle releasing God knows what! So that it kills a full ONE THIRD of the sea ecosystems.) Rev 8:9 and there died the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, even they that had life; and the third part of the ships was destroyed. (Now its the ships that are destroyed that peak my attention. Is it ships gathered for war like aircraft carriers or destroyers or major vessels with guns or boomers with missles or all of the above or is it the merchantile ships the merchant ships or worse still all of the above? If so which sea has enough to lose one third of the ships as one third of the sea creatures are killed? Moreover a mountain hits the sea from space and displaces a lot of water and there is something else to consider. The water is struck and displaced and it flows away from impact very fast and depending on where the impact happens as in does it come on a tectonic plate edge into a fault line or into a plate itself? Either way the water rushes away and where does it go? TO LAND. TSUNAMI the likes of which the islands and Japan would curl up and die in horror at the sight of it. I was once asked what it would take to raise the sealevel twenty feet in a day! All you reader who understnd these thinhs may feel free to send in your insights. Either way, either sea, its not going to be pretty and the concusive waves and moreover the impact itself will displace air it will scuttle anything on the water or in it! (The perfect storm just met its match!))
Rev 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell from heaven a great star, burning as a torch, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of the waters; (As if it were not bad enough...there is a second strike and it releases into the water table something or releases from the earth itself into the watertable something toxic! ONE THIRD of the fresh water the fountains of waters or water table is corrupted.)
Rev 8:11 and the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. (Bitter Pikraino- bitter from pikros- sharp pungent acrid bitter from pegnumi- to set up or pitch a tent by fixing a peg ... sharp piercing deadly. Something bitter to drink that will act on the stomach as poison possibly causing terrible stomach pain and killing. i had a dream of a child who was poisoned by something called bitterwater and as i prayed the child literally started coughing up the lining of this stomach and was healed. But it wasnt pretty to see)
Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; that the third part of them should be darkened, and the day should not shine for the third part of it, and the night in like manner. (By now the concept of thirds is getting through to you all. I confess that only one thing i know will cause that effect.... the ring of fire chain having their volcanos errupting and belching smoke and ash sky high. The other effect is the earth will cool precipitously. For is it that they day shortens or perhaps the earths rotations speeds up? Thus the days DO shorten! Or is it the appearance of the day and night dissapearing? Either way it is dramatic!)
Rev 8:13 And I saw, and I heard an eagle, flying in mid heaven, saying with a great voice, Woe, woe, woe, for them that dwell on the earth, by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, who are yet to sound.

Enter Abbaddon

Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from heaven fallen unto the earth: and there was given to him the key of the pit of the abyss. (Here is where supernatural becomes reality.
Rev 9:2 And he opened the pit of the abyss; and there went up a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
Rev 9:3 And out of the smoke came forth locusts upon the earth; and power was given them, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
Rev 9:4 And it was said unto them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree, but only such men as have not the seal of God on their foreheads.
Rev 9:5 And it was given them that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when it striketh a man.
Rev 9:6 And in those days men shall seek death, and shall in no wise find it; and they shall desire to die, and death fleeth from them. Rev 9:7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared for war; and upon their heads as it were crowns like unto gold, and their faces were as men's faces.
Rev 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
Rev 9:9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots, of many horses rushing to war.
Rev 9:10 And they have tails like unto scorpions, and stings; and in their tails is their power to hurt men five months.
Rev 9:11 They have over them as king the angel of the abyss: his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek tongue he hath the name Apollyon. (All this happens as One third the people and animals are gone and one third the trees and grass are gone and one third the ships and sealife are gone and the sea by the way is either blood by one third or like blood by one third and the fresh water sources are risky and the days and nights are either sped up or occluded by ash or something else. Now this comes and its is a demonic thing and it creates a sickness not unto death and in fact death from this seems to take a holiday! This takes 5 months!) Rev 9:12 The first Woe is past: behold, there come yet two Woes hereafter.
Rev 9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the horns of the golden altar which is before God,
Rev 9:14 one saying to the sixth angel that had one trumpet, Loose the four angels that are bound at the great river Euphrates. ( Ah yes four more not so nice angels i will be willing to bet they are fallen. They will slaughter people. ONE THIRD of humanity ON TOP OF WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN will die! Look at their army its not technicle not man made not normal or natural but demonic!) Rev 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, that had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, that they should kill the third part of men.
Rev 9:16 And the number of the armies of the horsemen was twice ten thousand times ten thousand: I heard the number of them. Rev 9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates as of fire and of hyacinth and of brimstone: and the heads of lions; and out of their mouths proceedeth fire and smoke and brimstone.
Rev 9:18 By these three plagues was the third part of men killed, by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone, which proceeded out of their mouths.
Rev 9:19 For the power of the horses is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails are like unto serpents, and have heads; and with them they hurt. (I find this so unreal! What is man's response to all this all these five soundings and their corrosponding actions and these are not mere cause and effect they are INJECTED into our world they are true ACTS OF GOD. look at the reaction!) Rev 9:20 And the rest of mankind, who were not killed with these plagues, repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and the idols of gold, and of silver, and of brass, and of stone, and of wood; which can neither see, nor hear, nor walk:
Rev 9:21 and they repented not of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Rev 10:1 And I saw another strong angel coming down out of heaven, arrayed with a cloud; and the rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire;
Rev 10:2 and he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left upon the earth;
Rev 10:3 and he cried with a great voice, as a lion roareth: and when he cried, the seven thunders uttered their voices.
Rev 10:4 And when the seven thunders uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying, Seal up the things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
Rev 10:5 And the angel that I saw standing upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his right hand to heaven,
Rev 10:6 and sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created the heaven and the things that are therein, and the earth and the things that are therein, and the sea and the things that are therein, that there shall be delay no longer: Now we have the next parenthetical or transition point.
Rev 10:7 but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then is finished the mystery of God, according to the good tidings which he declared to his servants the prophets. (Salvation Grace is over!) These verses mostly pertain to John. But John like Ezekiel is given to measure out a TEMPLE.

Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and one said, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. Now go to Ezekiel.From the forthieth chapter to the end (8 chapters) there are precise measurement for a physical temple...moreover it is also concerning the alotment of the land. While i dont see it to be the same temple because it appears to have an outer court. Still you leave off the outer court the measurements are exact enough.)
Rev 11:2 And the court which is without the temple leave without, and measure it not; for it hath been given unto the nations: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. (three and half years?)
Rev 11:3 And I will give unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks, standing before the Lord of the earth.
Rev 11:5 And if any man desireth to hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth and devoureth their enemies; and if any man shall desire to hurt them, in this manner must he be killed.
Rev 11:6 These have the power to shut the heaven, that it rain not during the days of their prophecy: and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood, and to smite the earth with every plague, as often as they shall desire. (Now Moses smote the Rock and the waters came. ELijah called down fire and both were with Jesus on Mt Tabor. So.... these may be the witnesses or they may be someone else.)
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that cometh up out of the abyss shall make war with them, and overcome them, and kill them. (The beast of the abyss is Appollyon.Antichrist hasnt shown up)
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.
Rev 11:9 And from among the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations do men look upon their dead bodies three days and a half, and suffer not their dead bodies to be laid in a tomb.
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell on the earth rejoice over them, and make merry; and they shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwell on the earth.
Rev 11:11 And after the three days and a half the breath of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them that beheld them.
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they went up into heaven in the cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
Rev 11:13 And in that hour there was a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell; and there were killed in the earthquake seven thousand persons: and the rest were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. (Now Jesus isnt coming to aleviate this you all know. Not yet. But The sickness of 5 months was woe number one or warning number one the 1260 days of drought and blood water at random possibly from two witnesses is the second woe or warning and this is the FIRST RAPTURE. If you want to call it that because it consists of TWO WITNESSES.)
Rev 11:14 The second Woe is past: behold, the third Woe cometh quickly. (In all this time Satan has not fallen the beast of the abyss is Apollyon (a destroyer) or Abbaddon (destroying angel) )
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there followed great voices in heaven, and they said, The kingdom of the world is become the kingdom of our Lord, and of his Christ: and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, who sit before God on their thrones, fell upon their faces and worshipped God,
Rev 11:17 saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God, the Almighty, who art and who wast; because thou hast taken thy great power, and didst reign.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were wroth, and thy wrath came, and the time of the dead to be judged, and the time to give their reward to thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and to them that fear thy name, the small and the great; and to destroy them that destroy the earth.
Rev 11:19 And there was opened the temple of God that is in heaven; and there was seen in his temple the ark of his covenant; and there followed lightnings, and voices, and thunders, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Now folks... 3 years and eleven months have passed and no antichrist, no mark, no relief from the devil, either in the spirit realm or well... Appollyon, what is that? Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the fire of coals, and bringeth forth a weapon for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. Maybe this is that waster maybe not but God is running this show and there is no end in sight... the war against the saints is about to begin... sounding the last trump! In heaven much comotion. Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel trumpeted. And there were great voices in Heaven, saying, The kingdoms of the world became our Lord's, even of His Christ; and He shall reign to the ages of the ages. This one statement comes with another....this one was along with the things said to John and the little book and commission to go:"Rev 10:7 but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then is finished the mystery of God, according to the good tidings which he declared to his servants the prophets." The Salvation of man of the Elect of God is the mystery and its end it with the LAST TRUMP.
1Th 4:13 But we would not have you ignorant, brethren, concerning them that fall asleep; that ye sorrow not, even as the rest, who have no hope.
1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also that are fallen asleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first;
1Th 4:17 then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

1Co 15:51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 But when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy victory? O death, where is thy sting? When does He come?
AT the LAST TRUMP now folks there are only 8. One in the Old Testament, on Mt Sinai when the Law was given. The other seven are in the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. So the seventh is the final TRUMP. But before you think "oh wow we get to leave its rapture time .." keep reading. There was one rapture the next thing will be the harpezo or catching away. But its not in the instant... there is one more woe. Now remember as of this sounding the MYSTERY is over. By now... the witnesses are gone,one third of men animals green plants and trees are gone, one third of the sealife and ships are gone, one third of the day and the night are gone, everyone else has endured 5 months of sickness that you cant die or suicide from. and guess what 1260 days is? a little over three years of random plague additional water turned into blood and oh yes there were those rocks and one made the sea in certain areas blood or like blood and certain fresh water is now bitter and undrinkable not even potable. Those who are left have had to reorganize civilization and massive migration has resulted along with possible massive quarantines (and those fema camps might finally have a good use and those plastic coffins with plastic lids will have been used... a lot.)

Now the kingdoms of the earth are the kingdoms of God and His Christ... the mystery is over. All is being revealed. So is it any wonder now that the two witnesses leave and a major quake hits in ["...the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified."] (Where was Jesus crucified out side of Jerusalem? So who gets the quake?) Jerusalem, that the nations are ANGRY? Rev 11:19 And there was opened the temple of God that is in heaven; and there was seen in his temple the ark of his covenant; and there followed lightnings, and voices, and thunders, and an earthquake, and great hail. Yes another earthquake. You have to begin to realize that humanity is looking at all this they most likely by now CAN SEE the open heavens and they DONT LIKE IT!
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Do you seriously think a people like this will repent? There are now two signs two heavenly happenings in the night sky as it were. One is a woman the other a dragom and she will birth a child. Now some say this is Israel. Well if in the birth of Messiah this was so then why is it int he section of John's writing after the come up here and i will show you what will shortly come to pass and remember one day for God is one thousand years for us.... so three days is shortly to come to pass with God.

Rev 12:1 And a great sign was seen in heaven: a woman arrayed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars; ( So is she the church? Organized church are you kidding? With all the horror we have just seen visited to the planet albeit they are still very much bussiness as usual,society has changed and not for the better. After the two witnessess and their prophecy what one of us dare stick their neck out from under a rock??? So that's out. So we have a woman. SHe is having a child and when the child is born it will be carried away and the woman will flee but... take a look at that dragon. you will it again) Rev 12:2 and she was with child; and she crieth out, travailing in birth, and in pain to be delivered.
Rev 12:3 And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his heads seven diadems. (There are seven heads and seven crowns with ten horns.)
Rev 12:4 And his tail draweth the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon standeth before the woman that is about to be delivered, that when she is delivered he may devour her child. (Why eat the child? Because he is threat!) Rev 12:5 And she was delivered of a son, a man child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and unto his throne. (Oh rapture number two.... a baby. We are still here)
Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that there they may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (But look at this.... 3 years and six months she will be hidden. So might this be that bride within the Elect or a particular woman or the spiritual church? Is this hwo we dissapear to a place prepared fleeing? Really? Keep reading)
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels going forth to war with the dragon; and the dragon warred and his angels;
Rev 12:8 And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him. (Now the tail whips about causing a third of the stars of heaven... angelic beings or as the Greek suggest in the use of the word astare or esther... a literal star... or asteroid. Ok if its debris from the skies on top of everything else we get a major meteor shower with multiple impacts. Thanks dragon! But there is war and guess who loses... and he is thrown down with his angels or fallen angels...) At long last.... the antichrist. Now i want to interject that until no more room was found for the devil he was spirit. Now in order to dynamically impact the world which he hates by the way he MUST INHABIT FLESH. God obeyed that law when He sent His Son.
Psa 40:6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
Psa 40:7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
Psa 40:8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
Heb_10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: This is the Word which is God in the beginning made flesh. If then this was done for our sakes and GOd created and the virgin did indeed give birth and the devil is thrown down... then he needs a body.

(Rev 12:10 And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying, Now is come the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accuseth them before our God day and night. Recall the earlier statement and join it to this one. Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.)
Rev 12:10 And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying, Now is come the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accuseth them before our God day and night. In the first the possesion of the world is stated as now belonging to God to do with as He pleased. Then the salvation, power, the Kingdom of God and authority of His Christ. Rev12:2b...Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. If in all of the eons i had lived i only got a few years to take the world i think i would be wroth too.... moreover he lost the kid and the war i mean come on now! So she has fled he has landed and the first thing he does is to send a flood of water from his mouth. the earth opens its mouth and swallows it but look at this.... "Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent." I am reminded of this: Isa_40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. Do you think??? Here it comes. She escapes... he turns to make war with the remnant of her seed. Wait i know who this is! The woman of Genesis 3:15 Her seed .... the Elect are her seed the Righteous are her seed and she bares forth the child king. Now how this is and if in the end only John ever sees this is irrelevant because the set up is done the trump blown and the mystery revealed. But things are about to get real bad for one group of people.
Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. NOw remember the dragon? (Rev 12:3 And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his heads seven diadems.) Do you see the similarities? You have already read on the Identifying a beast or two so I wont rehash that other than to point out the connection to the dragon. The dragon gives the beast his power his authority because he is a SPIRIT. He inhabits the beast. What does he do? Well consider the world he enters. It hates God even though it needs Him. It has been decimated by thirds and the cascade effects of that two major asteroidal strikes that effected the salt and fresh water in certain places. Plague drought famine war to the point where the people are now trying desperately to reestablish a civilization. Now into this climate of spiritual realization (there is a spirit realm gone amuck and it is ruining us punishing us and who is to blame? Of course those two horrid witnesses are long gone and yet... so is it any wonder they look at him and worship him? Hey he nearly died but lived! You see the mindset in their profile. He is all to happy to be their god after all this time.) First thing he does is declare himself worthy of their worship and blame the Elect. Now blasphemy against God is to take His place and call the bitter sweet and the sweet bitter... He blames God and God's people and because he is being worshipped he happily enters the temple as it were. He makes his statements and lifts up his head and plays the Absalom. If that were bad enough now there comes a second.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Please note these are BOTH beasts! One rises from the sea the unamed sea of humnanity surrounding Israel. Listen folks with all this devastation of the Earth by thirds whether it is full thirds of the planet or thirds of thirds of the portions or however the math works out the one place that wont be touched into great ruin that is Israel. This is HIS LAND He has vested interest in that land and so, He is protecting them. This has to make the Nations wild with fury. Add to it the Saints, those written in the Lambs Book of Life they are possibly doing better than most and that has to be infuriating the populace. You have to realize that the five month illness Appolyon unleashed did not touch the Saints. A lot of the sorrows hitting the world before Antichrist are effecting the Elect, yet God is with them and he takes great care of them and it shows. Be that as it may we expect a world leader to rise up and have answers but the second beast, this is the game changer.
This one rises from the Earth.
Now in hermeneutics the understanding of scripture has certain rules and one is the use of nouns. If a descriptive defines the noun especially in a book like this one then you focus on when or where in accordance with that noun but if not it may not be what you think. If the word sea in the rising of the beast had a name attached it might stand for a region. But scripture often uses the word sea for the gestalt of humanity. One clue to me has always been that John records himself as standing on the sand of the shore or with his people Israel. (Gen_22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;) sand and stars often refers to natural Israel. But in the devastation at hand it is quite possible that a different people group from what is there today may be in place in that day. Scripture does not tell us where the devastation will occur but a simple understanding of the relationship between God and His land will tell you that area will be in better shape than most. Same for the word Earth as it comes from the gestalt of humanity but in this case John does NOT point out that he is anywhere in relation to the location of the second beast rising. This one comes from anywhere at all. The whole world is already facinated by the first beast but as always those who want a slice of the action will take steps to continue the move. Sure enough it is the second beast who does everything else. The first beast merely blasphemes God by making himself out as God. The second... does far more. You see the dragon angry as he is has one goal in mind, destroy the Saints the REMNANT SEED OF THE WOMAN. The second beast supplies the means to isolate the Saints. Dont forget this is Daniel's Little boastful horn, which is all in the profile of antichrist section . He is arrogant honoring a god not even his own people worship. The man who is inhabited of the Dragon will honor what the Dragon honors. But the second beast honors the first. Althought the whole world wonders at the first Beast and worships the first Beast the second will want to ORGANIZE THINGS. It is in the second that all the steps taken to expose the Saints occur. The second beast in the presence of the first acts with all the authority of the first beast whose authority come from... The DRAGON. What this does not say is that the Dragon gives his power and authoriity to the second beast, that is important to note, because it means the second beast is using the first. But the second beast has a name... Her name is Whore of Babylon. She is a mystery. Now in that title we get a descriptive to the word Earth or perhaps land. For some time now i have become convinced that the current New Age Movement or Religion may well be and is the second beast whereas the New World Order is the first. For more information on that goto osol.zxq.net

Babylon by the way was the land of the Chaldees. They may well have started out as Sumerian way back in around 3000 bc. Abram is perported to have come of this stock which may have been a blend of Semites and someone else. Nonetheless the gods of Babylon are very much the same ilk as the New Age. Suffice also to say they are NOT the one true and Living God. In the mystery whore she is seen as riding the first beast. She is riding the coattails hoping to be "taken care of" in the time to come. So what does "she" do? First off she does signs wonders miracles and they are false or prehaps even contrived. With all the destruction that has come before never let it be said man is without ingenuity. After all she is the one who will get some sort of image to talk and walk and have that worshipped as well... of course it will be the image of the first beast... I do note that the scriptures use the word he for both beasts and that is a common enough manner of speech in this we can safely also say it isnt an animal its a person who should know better. The first beast is also not a conglomerant of monstrocity but a person. Some say that the firswt beast is political. I think it may be spiritual. Because the second beast not only is doing all these signs and wonders in the presence of the first but is gathering worshippers to him. Moreover there is POLITICS in volved as in legislation. THe second beast having decieved the world now gets them to make an image of the first beast. Neither beast is making images. The first is making claims the second is doing signs and miracles and the reason for those is to validate the claims of the first. There is also one other qualifier between these beasts. Beast number one had a deathstroke which killed it and it LIVES! (in that day it may have been a real miracle but today we can place a body on life support for as long as the bills get paid. Now mind you eventually the fact that the corpse is a corpse will become very obvious but as long as oxygen is given and the blood is circulated the corpse will stay fresh for quite a while. Moreover if someone dies while on life support and their soul having departed and another spirit (what you think the devil is souless? He was once the anointed cherub that covers!) and soul enter it while it is still on life support but considered brain dead, and activity returns to the brain and recovery happens such that the body can come off life support? This is FULL POSSESSION! While in today's standards that is not such an amazing thing (if it were no help would ever be needed tohave all of humanity believing this to be GOD.) so the second beasts works are of great importance. Now consider this.... who else do we all know that died of a mortal wound and is alive and was recorded as having RESSURRECTED? Jesus. SO then as the Dragon falls there will be a sight to see a burst of energy maybe lightening then we have the ressurrection. Sounds like Jesus may even look like Jesus and is convincing enough that Jesus tells us when we are told to come and see ... dont. This beast's composition is not political but spiritual. So now the second beast has horns like a lamb (lambs dont have horns) this is a reference to the Body of Christ. So now then this will be seen as the NEW MILLENIUM KINGDOM and the second beast as the CHOSEN ELECT who rule as PRIEST KINGS. Once you fit that final template over this is suddenly fits and makes a horrifying sense! These poor people who are being duped believe this is GOD. You see the Mystery of Salvation is finished and the faithful have heard the final trump and are now awaiting the RETURN! Knowing your word has never been more important! Hapezo has NOT happened yet. Moreover because the devil knows we are in hiding mostly in plain site, a new legislation is enacted. But first.... remember Babylon, it doesnt change much, there will be an image of the "king" just like Nebuchadnezzar. Yes folks there will be a beast image that has "breath" it walks and "lives" and is to be worshipped and whoever doesnt worship it DIES. (Line them up and mow them down)

Rev 13:15 And it was given unto him to give breath to it, even to the image to the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as should not worship the image of the beast should be killed. i have seen the brown buses at dawn in vision on my little post where i a school crossing guard and i have seen the people out on front lawns or on public places where there are apartment buildings and they kneel on the ground hands ziptied behind backs and in most cases where it is a house residence the family will be there and not being very understanding either. The buses come they gather the prisoners and they leave. Why? Because the arrested are the saints who refused to worship the first beast. But wait there's more. Up until now if you were "wise as serpents and harmless as doves you got by. If your area was not overly effected by all the turmoil chances are you had a job and a home or a place to live and the pressure wasnt on until now. If you managed to avoid detection and were not caught NOT worshipping the image and you paid lipservice to the first beast without actual worship then you were ok. But this will not be avoided. The reign of this beast is 42 months by the way which is three years and six months exactly.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bond, that there be given them a mark on their right hand, or upon their forehead;
Rev 13:17 and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, even the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred and sixty and six.
Right here is where things go badly.
If you cant let go of the world by the time this legislation is enacted you will find your self with a choice join and live or run! Without the mark. You will soon have no employment, without employment you will have no income. But you think if you store aside you will be fine. Wrong. Like as not with deforestation of one third the planet conservation will be the big thing thus I find it hard to concieve of a cash and coin society but rather a shift over to full electronic cashlessness. Right now conservationsists are pushing for ebilling, estatements, epayment, debit cards and the whole save a tree thing. If it is this prevelant not what will it be when these disasters have happened? Cash wont possibly do you any good and developing a counter culture off the grid may nto work well either. You are in a world gone after the god of it. You dont want to stand out. So you say well money in the bank... no you're not in the new system predicated from that MARK. NO ONE BUYS NO ONE SELLS NO EXCEPTIONS!
Now perhaps enforcement of the law will be more difficult in some places but as they find they need to deal with the general populace you will find enforcement gets more efficient. So spend the money and GET OUT OF DEBT! Debt in that day will create a papertrail so to speak of creditors looking for you unless you can get a death certificate sent in. No debt means no creditors wanting to be paid. STAY IN YOUR MEANS and THIN DOWN. Live for just what you really need and no more. Learn it now because in that day it will be to late! No bank access and if at least in the USA in FLorida you have three years of no payment of taxes until your house is taken. If you mortgage PAY IT OFF. If the courts are so overloaded that they dont process you for none payment of taxes for three and a half years or more you have shelter.... but without lights and water in this state you cant live in it! No ability to pay bills... and here is where wise as a serpent may come in handy to get someone in the system to pay those for you... but for how long?

What you have to understand is that all the horror the world faced was BIRTH PANGS but when the baby came THE SHOW STARTED. This now is the Tribulation. So then those in white robes are those being martyred up.... This is what the overcoming is: That you dont repent of your salvation and commitment to the Living God and seel for pottage your birthright.
(Gen 25:29 And Jacob boiled pottage. And Esau came in from the field, and he was faint.
Gen 25:30 And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage. For I am faint. Therefore was his name called Edom.
Gen 25:31 And Jacob said, Sell me first thy birthright.
Gen 25:32 And Esau said, Behold, I am about to die. And what profit shall the birthright do to me?
Gen 25:33 And Jacob said, Swear to me first. And he sware unto him. And he sold his birthright unto Jacob.
Gen 25:34 And Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentils. And he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way. So Esau despised his birthright. )
Do you see what happened here? In this story Jacob would be cast as Beast two and Esau as the famished Saint. Jesus says:"Mat_10:28 And be not afraid of them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. " Starvation is a horrible way to go but.... what is death to us but victory. How did Jesus overcome the world? He stayed true to the end and gave up His deathless life on the cross? He DIDNT COME DOWN! That was the thing to come down. Remember everyone said "save yourself!" Jesus says"Mat_10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it; and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
Mat_16:25 For whosoever would save his life shall lose it: and whosoever shall lose his life for my sake shall find it.
Mat_16:26 For what shall a man be profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and forfeit his life? or what shall a man give in exchange for his life?" THIS IS THE OVERCOMING. the Blood of the LAMB ( born again) the testimony (Spirit of Prophecy is the testimony of Jesus Christ- filled with the Spirit) LOVING NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO THE END OR THE DEATH!
Oh it is easy to consider that maybe for ones self death is ok but what about the family wherein the faith is at varying stages in it? We are responsible for ourselves ALONE before God (Mat_8:22 But Jesus saith unto him, Follow me; and leave the dead to bury their own dead.) "Mat_16:24, Mk 8:34 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man would come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me." and "Joh_12:26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will the Father honor." THIS is the only way to think both now and in this time coming.
This is the OVERCOMING OF THE SAINTS. I am sorry to say that the church of this nation at this time if put to this test would fail misserably not knowing the scriptures in Spirit and Truth. You see what comes of heaping teachers to say what you want to hear with those itchy ears? All the rest will simply fall in line and sign up and for a while Utopia will exist. But God isnt through. There are ways to not bend and still live.... before all this modern day stuff the subsistance farmer lived quite well... There are any number of places on the web that will help you understand how to live off the grid! (siteslist) Also remember that Jesus said.... "Mat_24:22 And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." Now does this mean the loss of a third of the day and night? or that its only going to be so long a period of time until He returns? That much is as yet uncertain. But the day does come. THe trump was blown. The time is right. We have waited. The LAMB comes. But He comes for someone.
"Rev 14:1 And I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on the mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty and four thousand, having his name, and the name of his Father, written on their foreheads.
Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and the voice which I heard was as the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
Rev 14:3 and they sing as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures and the elders: and no man could learn the song save the hundred and forty and four thousand, even they that had been purchased out of the earth.
Rev 14:4 These are they that were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they that follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were purchased from among men, to be the firstfruits unto God and unto the Lamb.
Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no lie: they are without blemish." Remember the sealing of seal six(Chapter 7)? These are the very same people. Now does this mean we have no place in the Kingdom? Absolutely not. You must remember that in time there is a great city coming down as a bride out of heaven and it is this place where the LAMB forever lives... AMONG MEN. This IS the TEMPLE of God in the whole Earth. Temple is only WHERE ONE GOES TO VENERATE AND PAY HOMAGE TO A DEITY. In a Thoecracy one goes to the Temple which is also THE SEAT OF GOVERNMENT. So there is TRIBUTE to pay a First Fruits Offering atop the Tenth, is one way to garner national tribute. I will discuss that later. Suffice it say these are for the Tribes... Israel has yet to look on Him whom they have pierced... or rather maybe they are seeing Him now. Everything moves much quicker now. Notice the Heralds.... Two Angelic heralds ansd the first has an ETERNAL GOSPEL...
Rev 14:7 and he saith with a great voice, Fear God, and give him glory; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters. Why this why now? Who is standing on OLIVET? What is actually happening here?
( Zec 14:1 Behold, a day of Jehovah cometh, when thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall Jehovah go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,(Olivet) which is before Jerusalem on the east; and the mount of Olives shall be cleft in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zec 14:5 And ye shall flee by the valley of my mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azel; yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah; and Jehovah my God shall come, and all the holy ones with thee.
Zec 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that there shall not be light; the bright ones shall withdraw themselves:
Zec 14:7 but it shall be one day which is known unto Jehovah; not day, and not night; but it shall come to pass, that at evening time there shall be light.)

Remember the Earthquake? It happened as the two witnesses left. Seven thousand dead. Now that's a lot of carnage for a quake. Those of you readers who professionally understand the magnitude needed to produce that death toll feel free to write me and do document please. I hazard to say it is at or around 10 or more on the richter scale. Have they been able to truly rebuild? Either way what Revelation may or may not be telling us is that there may be a war, specifically Ezekiel's war.
Also do we remember Appollyon? Where is he in all this? Revelation is the end book of the Mystery of Salvation the great mystery of God and the Revelation of Jesus the Christ of God (God the Son) so it deals with what directly deals with the basis of that time and it isnt overly detailed. You really do have to think it through as you STUDY it. In the reading if you detract that is bad if you add that is bad but as you plug this into the last days for a acurate picture of the times and seasons... things change. It isnt going to disclose every detail that is not its function. But the Spirit filled Believer who thinks it through will begin to ask the critical questions. In this piece I am asking critical questions and thinking it through. Let go back a second and pick up a detail i left out until now. Remember the plagues of hail fire and brimstone that took out a third of the planet's population ( or military)?
Rev 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, that had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, that they should kill the third part of men.
Rev 9:16 And the number of the armies of the horsemen was twice ten thousand times ten thousand: I heard the number of them. Rev 9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates as of fire and of hyacinth and of brimstone: and the heads of lions; and out of their mouths proceedeth fire and smoke and brimstone.
Rev 9:18 By these three plagues was the third part of men killed, by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone, which proceeded out of their mouths.
Rev 9:19 For the power of the horses is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails are like unto serpents, and have heads; and with them they hurt. They are the four angels loosed with a massive army. What has happened to that army? Moreover in (snapshot --rename) you will find a different army one comprised of men determined to remove Israel from the face of the Earth. They will be there on that day.

So all this is happening as the first angel delivers the message and it isnt Jesus loves you ... or Repent and be saved today... FEAR GOD! Glorify God the hour of judgement is come Worship God. Salvation is over. ( and yet God) The second angel declares that Babylon is FALLEN. Now i told you that beast number two was THAT BABYLON the WHORE OF IT. Notice also the usage of pronoun. It is feminine. Now watch this a second angel follows...
Rev 14:8 And another, a second angel, followed, saying, Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, that hath made all the nations to drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. The wine of the wrath of her fornication.... sex????? the wine of the wrath of her... hey that's X rated! Well think it through who Babylon? Whats she been doing? But wait its not over yet.. there's a third angel...
Rev 14:9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a great voice, If any man worshippeth the beast and his image, and receiveth a mark on his forehead, or upon his hand,
Rev 14:10 he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is prepared unmixed in the cup of his anger; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 14:11 and the smoke of their torment goeth up for ever and ever; and they have no rest day and night, they that worship the beast and his image, and whoso receiveth the mark of his name. Wait.... what? Hey Jesus is here lets grab the 144000 virgins and scram! (Seriously we have to wait! patience of the Saints what the help desk?????
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints, they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 14:13 And I heard the voice from heaven saying, Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from henceforth: yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; for their works follow with them. But what about the rapture what about the harpezo what about Putting on some immortality!??? (You do know in order for that to work when the dead are raised there has to be at least one believer left alive...) WHat happens next is.... epic!
Rev 14:14 And I saw, and behold, a white cloud; and on the cloud I saw one sitting like unto a son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand sharp sickle.
Rev 14:15 And another angel came out from the temple, crying with a great voice to him that sat on the cloud, Send forth thy sickle, and reap: for the hour to reap is come; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
Rev 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud cast his sickle upon the earth; and the earth was reaped.
Rev 14:17 Another angel came out from the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
Rev 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, he that hath power over fire; and he called with a great voice to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Send forth thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. Rev 14:19 And the angel cast his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vintage of the earth, and cast it into the winepress, the great winepress, of the wrath of God.
Rev 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and there came out blood from the winepress, even unto the bridles of the horses, as far as a thousand and six hundred furlongs. What in the world is this?
Ezekiel's battle part one. (there are two) It is the ultimate showdown at the O.K. Corral The reaping and pouring out is the causation of war and there Jesus stands. His foot has created a second quake that splits the mountain and creates and access way out for those who need it. Now remember on Earth Jesus is there for His 144000 and a battle is in the offing the winepress is being trod. We the Saints are not yet transformed and the dead are not yet raised... are they?
But wait there were seals and trumpets but wasnt there.... something more? Is He still on the mount? Did we leave with Him as He came like the thief in the night? Shall noone more be saved? Well first yes there is something more. Second IS He there if so who is this that looks like the Son of Man being told to REAP? (Was that the harpezo?)
Finally the Mystery is over but grace ... I dont know yet. All this time there were the warnings of the plagues for mankind. Here they are.

But the scene opens with yet another view of heaven and unlike the first gathering of those who have come OF the great tribulation these are those who have come off VICTORIOUS from the beast. They didnt have the beasts name or number on them and as the first group had white robes and palm branches; these had harps and they sing a different song the Song of Moses. (hmmmm did we miss something here?) You see a thief coming in the night is hard to pinpoint isnt it? But it will all suddenly get really clear.
There is a war in the offing and were the 144000 there when Jesus got there or was the way of escape Jesus coming makes from the destroyed city made and then they came? Now why does He fetch them? Why dont they transform? Well they are sealed but are they saved? They love the Lamb but had they met the Lamb? Dont forget the for Israel to be convinced they must LOOK UP HIM WHOM THEY PIERCED. These certainly did. They did return. Jesus took them.
They stand before God and they sing a new song only they can sing noone else can learn the words...
This is group of people is different from every other group. Both the other groups are not raptured out the explaination of the first white robed branch toting singers (and note the choir here is growing) is confirmed in the second by use of the victorious. To get off or out of the tribulation victorious is to be born again filled with the Spirit and not loving your life to the death... or martyrdom.

So the one on the cloud reaping is.... Jesus... Yet we also read this...
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come forth, my people, out of her, that ye have no fellowship with her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues: So that means His people are THERE... In the system there and have NOT partaken.... But what about the sea of crystal mingled with fire and the harpists who sing the song of Moses who got off VICTORIOUS? Wait was that the ... harpezo?
There are still those called out of .... ??? Confused? Well lets let the book continue and keep in mind with the LAST TRUMP. He has come for the 144000 who are sealed as his from the tribes of Israel for a purpose. What we see in chapter 14 is that Jesus is there on Olivet and the 144000 are with Him they are PURCHASED out of the Earth and the heavens as FIRST FRUITS from among men. ( I will be willing to bet they are also all first born males of their particular families and of blooded lineage back to their tribes from antiquity. God it would seem is very particular about lineage.) This is a little different. This is a Bikkurin unto the Father and the Son and they will be priests in the Temple to come. These will minister before God forever.
They are sung to, before they sing, as it were by harpists with many "voices" and thunder. Remember also this passage:
Psa 24:3 Who shall go up into the hill of Jehovah? And who shall rise in His holy place?
Psa 24:4 He who has clean hands and a pure heart; who has not lifted up his soul to vanity and has not sworn deceit.
Psa 24:5 He shall lift up the blessing from Jehovah, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. Well there ya go! (They might even have been living in the stone cities where there are no graves beneath the foot i dont know)

So then now it gets clearer. There is still a "witch hunt" its still open season on us. Blessed are the dead who DIE in the Lord... and there is a reaping. Now what is this blood of? Its the wine press blood trod out by Jesus alone and its a lot. This is a wine to be drunk.
Rev 17:6 a "And I saw the woman being drunk from the blood of the saints, and from the blood of the witnesses of Jesus...." But if you go back to chapter 14 there are TWO reapings.
One is the vintage(ASV) vine(KJV) Now the vine is one but the Greek word used has two roots one is from an amphi which is a particular shaped liquid carrying vessel for cargo on ships or other transport and a threshing floor.(halon) The word is amphelos or vine.
But there are two reapings.
One like unto the Son of Man sits on the cloud after the great song is sung to the 144000.
The first the sickle is put forth and there is a HARVEST from the soil... My mind jumps to the Gospel which ...we have shared, we have SOWN. Over and over again there is this concept of the seed into soil (Matt 13:3-9) (1 Cor 3:6) (Mk 4:28) but the most applicable is this:
Mat 13:24 He put before them another parable, saying: The kingdom of Heaven is compared to a man sowing good seed in his fields. Mat 13:25 But while the men were sleeping, one hostile to him came and sowed darnel in the midst of the wheat, and went away.
Mat 13:26 And when the blade sprouted and produced fruit, then the darnel also appeared.
Mat 13:27 And coming near, the slaves of the housemaster said to him, Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? Then from where does it have the darnel?
Mat 13:28 And he said to them, A man, an enemy did this. And the slaves said to him, Do you desire, then, that going out we should gather them?
Mat 13:29 But he said, No, lest gathering the darnel you should uproot the wheat with them.
Mat 13:30 Allow both to grow together until the harvest. And in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, First gather the darnel, and bind them into bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my granary. Does it say what the seed is in type? Is it wheat barley or does it matter? THIS is the first reaping. He reaps to the granery.
Notice why the time for this had come..."because the harvest of the earth was dried." or RIPE. xeraino
From G3584; to desiccate; by implication to shrivel, to mature: - dry up, pine away, be ripe, wither (away). Matured...
(Eph_4:13 till we all attain unto the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a fullgrown man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ) and this has taken place. He has nurtured to full growth even threshed and winnowed and COOKED in the fires of adversity tested tried true with the Truth filled with the Life walking to the end of the path in the WAY. For them to live is Christ and to die much gain. This may well be seen as an HARPEZO. (This might actually be that all inportant rapture in part) He is on the cloud visibly seen...
You see by now there are two groups and only two groups... those who are of the "marked" persuasion and those who are not. By now noone can say they havent got evidence to believe in Jesus... Jesus has shone on everything and everyone whether they liked it or not.
Now the next is a Angel (not Jesus) who reaps the VINE... The grapes are thrown into the wine vat and it is trod out on Earth in a specific place. Notice that Jesus reaps the Mature HARVEST but an angel reaps the "vine of the earth" which is cast into the winepress... The winepress is trod by Jesus and is the wine of the wrath of God (The Father or The Godhead) the resulting brew is the blood of the Saints... Trod outside the city and the blood runs out around 183 or more miles and up to the bridle of a horse in depth.... 4 maybe 5 foot deep. THAT is a lot of blood! This is the wine of the INDIGNATION OF GOD (The Father or Godhead) Now normal wine will get you innebriated and uninhibited but there is a thing about blood .... Blood guiltness or BLOOD LUST.. Wine will beget sexual lust in the right setting but Bloodlust will beget berzerker killing rage!
Now we see the sea of crystal mingled with fire and those who have got off VICTORIOUS from the BEAST are NOT Raptured... They are MARTYRED... remember the ones with the palm branches? They were martyred but this was before the BEAST. These have been martyred on account OF the Beast. BOTH HAVE OVERCOME.

Now here in the anger of God will be completed or fully vented out.

The bowls/vials/plagues.

Simply they are told to go their ways and pour out. (All this time there was silence in heaven for the space of half an hour. Every thing you just read from the handing out of the vials and the orders to the reapings and the treading out took half an hour!)
Now remember Jesus came and took His FIRSTFRUITS. There was rapture... TWO WITNESSES and possibly the harvest but I remains suspicious. The HARVEST IS IN the WRATH WINE PREPARED which means.... JESUS HAD GONE DOWN A SECOND TIME OR SOMEWHAT BECAUSE HE TROD THIS OUTSIDE THE CITY.
Isa 63:1 Who is this who comes from Edom with dyed garments from Bozrah, this One adorned in His clothing, bending in His great power? It is I, speaking in righteousness, mighty to save!
Isa 63:2 Why is Your clothing red, and Your garments like one who treads in the winepress?
Isa 63:3 I have trodden the winepress, I alone, and no man of the peoples was with Me. And I will tread them in My anger, and trample them in My fury; and their juice shall be spattered on My garments; and I will pollute all My clothes.
Isa 63:4 For the day of vengeance is in My heart, and the year of My redeemed has come.
Isa 63:5 And I looked, and no one was helping. And I wondered that no one was upholding. Then My own arm saved for Me, and My fury upheld Me. Isa 63:6 And I tread down peoples in My anger, and made them drunk in My fury. And I poured their juice to the earth. (Sort of makes you wonder....He trod the grapes... the people...??? He is God the Son however He wants His wine trod out is His bussiness.) So we have now heard the song of the Victorious and now... the angels pour. Please note here that in the mystical religions of the pagans you have Water Earth Fire Air. The four cardinal elements of rule and Satan WAS Prince of the power of the air but is at this time cast down... and what do they pour out on? Also note that the Temple can be seen from Earth.... has been able to be seen ever since the heavens rolled up as a scroll....?
Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. Remember I said there was a massive earth quake that was the start of it all like a bookend? The other is coming now. So every time something happens where the Temple doors open... everyone can see it... how do i know?
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? In other words THEY KNEW ALL ALONG.

Now the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony in heaven is open and it is smoking and so energized by God that noone will enter it until all the wraths are poured out. And everyone on Earth can see it.... Perhaps by now the strange sky has become normal?

By the way they are still business as usual.... believe it or not. Now if you recall The Exodus story.... and at a certain point in the plague fall there was delineation between those who are God's and those who are not. The first hits the earth.... the noisome grievous sore...remember this?
"Exo 9:10 And they took soot of the furnace and stood before Pharaoh. And Moses sprinkled it toward the heavens, and it became an inflammation breaking out into boils on man and on livestock.
Exo 9:11 And the priests were not able to stand before Moses, before the inflammation. For the inflammation was on the priests and on all the Egyptians."

Next the sea and by that I mean the ocean... and everything in it every soul... died... it became blood. Blood as of a corpse. Now this is specific folks the sea one of the weather generators is now toxic. Acid rain may not be the end result... and the smell... Once again this has been done before...
"Exo 7:20 And Moses and Aaron did so, as Jehovah had commanded. And he lifted up the staff and struck the water which was in the river before Pharaoh's eyes, and before his servants' eyes. And all the water in the river turned to blood.
Exo 7:21 And the fish in the river died, and the river stunk. And the Egyptians were not able to drink water from the Nile. And the blood was in all the land of Egypt."
Exo 7:24 And all the Egyptians dug around the river to drink water, for they were not able to drink from the water of the river." ROUND TWO COMPLETE

But wait... as if the sea wasnt bad enough... the next one pours onto the FRESH WATER... Now realize that a third of the water on Earth was already toxic by reason of Wormwood. Now... this. The next one hots the sproings of water... not a third of the waters....all the fresh water is now like the sea. Now you might say well the sea was toxic and enough of the marine life has now died and it has caused a chain reaction killing all the marine life and the water is toxic from dead marine life blood and because of the weather system it has gotten into the "water table" and guess what? now all the fresh water aquatic life is dead and so yes there you go. Maybe... and then the timing with an angel pouring out is just uncanny. but then explain this one..."You gave blood to them to drink, for they were deserving."

Now the sun. We talk about global warming... This is GLOBAL MELTDOWN. When the weather man says this is a scorcher.... he means it and yet do they repent? NO quite the oposite. Now Thankfully Moses NEVER had to do that one. This is a NEW and UNIQUE plague. Can you imagine how toxic the air is?

This is one of the plagues and in some ways my personal favorite if you understood the places effected and the gods they were dedicated to. But now the pourage is personal. right on the seat of power for antichrist... and the lights go ...out! The Exodus:
"Exo 10:21 And Jehovah said to Moses, Stretch out your hand to the heavens so that darkness may be on the land of Egypt, and one may feel darkness.
Exo 10:22 And Moses stretched out his hand to the heavens, and darkness of gloom was in all the land of Egypt three days."ROUND FIVE COMPLETE

(of course there is no repentance ...but there should be) Are there still believers in the Earth at this point? We will see... From personal to specific... remember there is a WAR in the offing, Ezekiel's war with Joel's army. This one is to pave the way.
The next one lands on the Euphrates and its dried up. Interestingly it is for the way of the KINGS OF THE RISING SUN to come...or just merely from the east... but it is the peculiar use of the Greek that begets the notion of a million man chinese army... They were not even considered in John's world view but...interstingly enough we do have an eastern kingdom. Assyria. Assyria of Ninevah. Today its called Niniveh which is located in none other than IRAQ. There is your EASTERN KINGS.... I have already gone through and shown the whole way from Russia through turkey Iran Iraq Afganistan which we now realize is still populated at this time.
Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Rev 16:14 For they are spirits of demons doing signs, which go forth to the kings of the earth, even of the whole habitable world to assemble them to the war of that day, the great day of God Almighty. This is the Clarion Call to war and notice God calls it the GREAT DAY of GOD ALMIGHTY. But look at the next verse and there it is the warning to be prepared... the THiEF IN THE NIGHT COMES... blessed is the one who is "keeping his garments"
(Rev 3:3 "If, then, you do not watch, I will come upon you like a thief and you will not at all know what hour I come upon you. Rev 3:4 You also have a few names in Sardis which did not defile their robes, and they shall walk with Me in white because they are worthy." This is the only church that is mentioned as both referenced to the THief in the night and the undefiled garments, "garments kept." What does this say? It also mentions nakedness... "
Rev 3:17 Because you say, I am rich, and I am made rich, and I have need of nothing, and do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked.
Rev 3:18 I advise you to buy from Me gold having been fired by fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, and your shame and nakedness may not be revealed. And anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see."
So then we have this sense of the Sardis with a name that is dead and Laodicea which is simply deluded. The Garments kept from defilement means they are still resolute not to be part of the Beast system and on these believe it or not... the wrath has no effect. You see YES the world is trashed quite thoroughly now but certain things were only for those with the mark who were worshipping the beast. There would be those who were not yet "on side" to borrow a movie quote, who were still among them. You will see what i mean in a bit.

Now the end is here we can all breathe our collective sigh... God assembles the battle arrays at Har Meggido. Armeggedon. But it is actuall the HILL of Meggido. Today there is the Meggido Kibbutz on the flat top mountain among all the ruins and digs and it lay 30 km outside of Haifa. (Wikipedia Haifa... is the largest city in northern Israel, and the third-largest city in the country, with a population of over 268,000. Another 300,000 people live in towns directly adjacent to the city including the cities of the Krayot, as well as, Tirat Carmel, Daliyat al-Karmel, some Kibbuzim and Nesher. Together these areas form a contiguous urban area home to nearly 600,000 residents which makes up the inner core of the Haifa metropolitan area) Now considering the planet is this badly ruined by now... still that is a massive amount of populated area. The tanks the hielos the armored personell carriers the soldiers the mess.... right there and The city once called Sodom and Gomorah where the Lord was crucified... Golgotha region is in ruins and Jerusalem? Same possibly. This is the theater of war... The last is poured on the air.... only FIRE which God identifies with is left untouched as an element. This is the reaction beyond the declaration It has happened...
Rev 16:18 And voices and thunders and lightnings occurred. And a great earthquake occurred, such as did not occur since man came into being on the earth, such a huge earthquake, so great!
Rev 16:19 And the great city came to be into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give to her the cup of the wine of the anger of His wrath.
Rev 16:20 And every island fled away, and mountains were not found.
Rev 16:21 And a great hail, as the size of a talent, came down out of the heaven upon men. And men blasphemed God from the
plague of the hail, because its plague is exceedingly great.

This is the other quake worse than the first by far.... It literally will rearrange the face of Earth and still there are survivors. This is the thing that gets me .... if they repented and bowed and worshipped it would have all ended... but salvation is for these shut. The next chapter talks about the identity of the whore. She is called Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of the Harlots and of the Abominations of the Earth. We have another name for her.... Queen of Heaven. Astara, Ishitar, Semiramis, and Isis are all her names through the centuries and because she rises as the beast from the Earth we can add the New Age name GAIA. (Gaia was the goddess or personification of Earth in ancient Greek religion) now recall please the first beast had that leopard look going on? Leopard is the symbol of macedonia of the Grecian Empire... There is your connection. Now a Mystery religion is also usually seen as OCCULT..and the New Age Movement is very much... occult. It is as simple as this!
Rev 17:9 Here is the mind having wisdom:(Book of Daniel it is all there) the seven heads are seven mountains, where the woman sits on them.
Rev 17:10 And the kings are seven. The five fell, and the one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he does come, he must remain a little.
Rev 17:11 And the beast which was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goes to perdition.
Rev 17:12 And the ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but will receive authority as kings one hour with the beast.
Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and their power and authority they shall give up to the beast.
Rev 17:14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and the ones with Him are the called and elect and faithful ones.
Rev 17:15 And he says to me, The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples and crowds and nations and tongues. Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, and will make her desolated and naked. And they will eat her flesh, and will burn her down with fire.
Rev 17:17 For God gave into their hearts to do His mind, and to act in one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the Words of God shall be fulfilled.

The kings of the mountains of the woman's influence are seven in all .... By John's day five were gone. Egypt (Isis), Assyria (Astara or Astarte), Babylon(Ishitar or Asherah), Persia (Tema), Greece(Hera), Rome (Juno) or Venus) was and would be the sixth, notice that these are all those who dominated their world in their day. So who next would be of this calibre...The British Empire... do a little side by side comparison and see that it may be a real contender to Rome. Then there was the United Nations. It is in America. Hitler Napolean Stalin all tried to be world contenders... they failed. Right now though we are trying to Democracize the globe. In every one of these cultures the concept of a queen or mother of all existed and thus from perhaps the oldest culture Sumeria where she was called Innana.
Today you will find her in Helena Blavatsky's writings in the secret doctrine of Dzyan she is Matripadma the mother who is seeded by the germ. goto
osol.zxq.net to read more on the Idea page. Thus this lady had managed to grace (a poor choice of words) practically EVERY religion!
Not to mention the Roman Catholic Mary. (At least she is modestly dressed and the real woman bore our Lord)
This is the mother of all whoredom (harlotry) (hookers and ladies of the night) and abominations... do you really want to know what devotees did for their goddess? He is the politic she is the religion. He is the dragon she is His prophet both are false... My theory is that the system of the New World Order is the set up to this beast and the New Age Movement is its prophet. But until all what happens before happens... it is yet to be. This is what makes me realize that believers, God's people are still alive on Earth...
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice out of Heaven saying, My people, come out of her, that you may not share in her sins, and that you may not receive of her plagues; This is the ruin of the CITY. Remember she is a city.... and a system as well. Now with the exception of this one verse... the set ups for the fall of everything is being declared out from God. God you will find, always speaks forth the word and it works and this is no different. The last of the righteous are instructed to flee. And now at long last.... harpezo? Rev 19:11 And I saw Heaven being opened. And, behold! A white horse, and He sitting on it having been called Faithful and True. And He judges and wars in righteousness.
Rev 19:12 And His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head many diadems, having a name that had been written, which no one knows except Himself;
Rev 19:13 and having been clothed in a garment which had been dipped in blood. And His name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies in Heaven followed Him on white horses, being dressed in fine linen, white and pure. Heaven opens the righteous are out of Babylon... and He is coming down to the Battle. He is bringing armies... they are dressed in linen.... but are they corporeal? We have an angel on the sun calling the birds to carion and the beasts to predation. The carnage will be spectacular. The battle is swift.. beast and prophet thrown to the pit to the lake of fire forever... everyone else dead... but of the people who came out of Babylon. It may well be folks that the call to COME OUT was their harpezo. At the end of it all As to the Dragon.... he gets the pit with a seal for a thousand years. Chapter 18 no war yet but all the players are assembling....
Rev 17:18 And the woman whom you saw is the great city, having a kingdom over the kings of the earth. Before the war was the wedding....
Rev 19:9 And he says to me, Write: Blessed are the ones having been called to the supper of the marriage of the Lamb. And he says to me, These Words of God are true. my mind immediately goes to
Luk 14:16 But He said to him, A certain man made a great supper and invited many.
Luk 14:17 And he sent his slave at the supper hour to say to those who had been invited, Come, for now all is ready.
Luk 14:18 And all with one mind began to beg off. The first said to him, I have bought a field, and I have need to go out and see it; I ask you, have me excused.
Luk 14:19 And another said, I bought five yoke of oxen and I am going to try them out; I ask you, have me excused.
Luk 14:20 And another said, I married a wife, and for this reason I am not able to come.
Luk 14:21 And having come up that slave reported these things to his lord. Then being angry, the housemaster said to his slave, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in here the poor and maimed and lame and blind ones.
Luk 14:22 And the slave said, Sir, it has been done as you ordered, and still there is room.
Luk 14:23 And the lord said to the slave, Go out into the highways and hedges and compel them to come in, so that my house may be filled.
Luk 14:24 For I say to you that not one of those men who had been invited shall taste of my supper.

Mat 22:2 The kingdom of Heaven is compared to a man, a king, who made a wedding feast for his son.
Mat 22:3 And he sent his slaves to call those being invited to the wedding feast, but they did not desire to come.
Mat 22:4 Again, he sent other slaves, saying, Tell the ones invited, Behold, I have prepared my supper; my oxen, and the fatlings are killed, and all things ready; come to the wedding feast.
Mat 22:5 But not caring they went away, one to his own field, and one to his trading.
Mat 22:6 And the rest, seizing his slaves, insulted and killed them.
Mat 22:7 And hearing, the king became angry. And sending his armies, he destroyed those murderers and burned their city.
Mat 22:8 Then he said to his slaves, Indeed, the wedding feast is ready, but those invited were not worthy.
Mat 22:9 Then go onto the exits of the highways and call to the wedding feast as many as you may find.
Mat 22:10 And going out into the highways, those slaves gathered all, as many as they found, both evil and good. And the wedding feast was filled with reclining guests.
Mat 22:11 And the king coming in to look over those reclining, he saw a man there not having been dressed in a wedding garment. Mat 22:12 And he said to him, Friend, how did you come in here, not having a wedding garment? But he was speechless.
Mat 22:13 Then the king said to the servants, Binding his feet and hands, take him away and throw him out into the outer darkness. There shall be weeping and gnashing of the teeth.
Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few chosen. These Kingdom of heaven stories are the prefect fit to the actual Marriage of the Lamb. and the bride???

Rev 19:7 Let us rejoice and let us exult, and we will give glory to Him, because the marriage of the Lamb came, and His wife prepared herself.
Rev 19:8 And it was given to her that she be clothed in fine linen, pure and bright; for the fine linen is the righteousness of the saints. Some how my mind goes back to that woman in Revelation chapter 12 the one who gave birth and fled to the wilderness. She was nourished the whole time of the Beast Regime in the "place prepared for her". Somehow i see her as the Bride. What does that mean to us now? Some say there is a people within a people and a bride within a bride, i cannot answer to it in this piece but who knows? Maybe they are on to something. At this point now the Thrones are set and judgement begins for the house of the Lord.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them. And judgment was given to them, and the souls of the ones having been beheaded because of the witness of Jesus, and because of the Word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast nor its image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand. And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. There are several things that pertain to this part of the Revelation. The Parable of the talents Matt 25:14-29 "Luk 6:22 Blessed are you when men hate you, and when they cut you off, and will reproach you, and will cast out your name as evil, on account of the Son of Man; Luk 6:23 rejoice in that day, and leap for joy; for, behold, your reward is much in Heaven! For their fathers did according to these things to the prophets. "
"1Co 3:12 And if anyone builds on this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, grass, straw,
1Co 3:13 the work of each will be revealed; for the Day will make it known, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire will prove the work of each, what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If the work of anyone which he built remains, he will receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If the work of anyone shall be consumed, he shall suffer loss; but he will be saved, but so as through fire. " The rewards have to do with "what did you do with Jesus in your lifetime"? It is important to note that:
"Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is the one having part in the first resurrection. The second death has no authority over these, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him a thousand years." This is the first resurrection. In one thousand years there is a repeat of the previous battle. The Deciever is loosed and the nations are decieved and the battle lines are drawn again. See snapshot. Ezekiel's battle with Joel's army again takes place. This is the battle... short and swift.

Rev 20:8 and he will go to mislead the nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to assemble them in war, whose number is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up over the breadth of the land and encircled the camp of the saints, and the beloved city. And fire from God came down out of Heaven and burned them down.
Rev 20:10 And the Devil leading them astray was thrown into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet were. And they were tormented day and night to the ages of the ages. You see the pit of holding was not the lake of fire. There is a second time for the Thrones to be set up and this is Daniel's Ancient of Days judgement.
Rev 20:11 And I saw a Great White Throne, and the One sitting on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled; and a place was not found for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, the small and the great, standing before God. And books were opened. And another Book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged out of the things written in the books, according to their works. Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead in it. And death and hell gave up the dead in them. And they were each judged according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were thrown into the Lake of Fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And if anyone was not found having been written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the Lake of Fire. Because i have no wish to suffer the curse of this book I leave you with the Goodness of God... this is the future for all eternity.


Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and the sea no longer is. Rev 21:2 And I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of Heaven from God, having been prepared as a bride, having been adorned for her Husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of Heaven, saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God with men! And He will tabernacle with them, and they will be His people, and God Himself will be with them as their God.
Rev 21:4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes. And death shall be no longer, nor mourning, nor outcry, nor will there be pain any more; for the first things passed away.
Rev 21:5 And the One sitting on the throne said, Behold! I make all things new. And He says to me, Write, because these Words are faithful and true.
Rev 21:6 And He said to me, It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending. To the one thirsting, I will freely give of the fountain of the Water of Life.
Rev 21:7 The one overcoming will inherit all things, and I will be God to him, and he will be the son to Me.
Rev 21:8 But for the cowardly and unbelieving, and those having become foul, and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the lying ones, their part will be in the Lake burning with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
Rev 21:9 And one of the seven angels came to me, he having the seven bowls being filled with the seven last plagues, and spoke with me, saying, Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me in spirit onto a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, holy Jerusalem, coming down out of Heaven from God,
Rev 21:11 having the glory of God. And its light was like a very precious stone, as a jasper stone, being clear as crystal,
Rev 21:12 and having a great and high wall, having twelve gates, and twelve angels at the gates and names having been inscribed, which are of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel.
Rev 21:13 From the east, three gates; from the north, three gates; from the south, three gates; and from the west, three gates.
Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Rev 21:15 And he speaking with me had a golden reed, that he may measure the city, and its gates, and its wall.
Rev 21:16 And the city lies four cornered, even its length as much as the width also. And he measured the city with the reed at twelve thousand stadia; its length and width and height are equal.
Rev 21:17 And he measured its wall, a hundred and forty four cubits, a measure of a man, which is of an angel.
Rev 21:18 And the structure of its wall was jasper; and the city was pure gold, like pure glass.
Rev 21:19 And the foundation of the wall of the city having been adorned with every precious stone: The first foundation, jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth, emerald;
Rev 21:20 the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, topaz; the tenth, chrysoprasus; the eleventh, hyacinth; the twelfth, amethyst.
Rev 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; respectively each one of the gates was of one pearl. And the street of the city was pure gold, as transparent glass.
Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty is its temple, even the Lamb.
Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, nor of the moon, that they might shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it, even its lamp is the Lamb.
Rev 21:24 And the nations of the ones saved will walk in its light; and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it.
Rev 21:25 And its gates may not at all be shut by day, for no night will be there.
Rev 21:26 And they will bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it.
Rev 21:27 And all profaning may not at all enter into it, or any making an abomination or a lie; but only the ones having been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb.

Rev 22:1 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, bright as crystal, coming forth out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev 22:2 In the midst of its street and of the river, from here and from there, was a tree of life producing twelve fruits: according to one month each yielding its fruit. And the leaves of the tree were for healing of the nations. (Ezek 47:7,9,12)
Rev 22:3 And every curse will no longer be. And the throne of God and the Lamb will be in it; and His slaves will serve Him.
Rev 22:4 And they will see His face; and His name will be on their foreheads.
Rev 22:5 And night will not be there; and they have no need of a lamp or a light of the sun, because the Lord God will illumine them. And they shall reign to the ages of the ages. And its closing
Rev 22:6 And he said to me, These Words are faithful and true. And the Lord God of the holy prophets sent His angel to show His slaves what must happen quickly.
Rev 22:7 Behold, I am coming quickly. Blessed is the one keeping the Words of the prophecy of this Book.
Rev 22:8 And I, John, was the one seeing and hearing these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel showing me these things.
Rev 22:9 And he said to me, Behold! Stop! For I am your fellow-slave, and of your brothers the prophets, and of the ones keeping the Words of this Book. Do worship to God.
Rev 22:10 And he said to me, Do not seal the Words of the prophecy of this Book, because the time is near.
Rev 22:11 The one acting unjustly, let him still act unjustly; and the filthy, let him still be filthy; and the righteous, let him still do righteousness; and the holy, let him still be holy.
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to each as his work is.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, the First and the Last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are the ones doing His commands, that their authority will be over the Tree of Life, and by the gates they may enter into the city.
Rev 22:15 But outside are the dogs and the sorcerers, and the fornicators, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and everyone loving a lie, and making it.
Rev 22:16 I, Jesus, sent My angel to testify these things to you over the assemblies. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright and morning Star.
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come! And the one hearing, let him say, Come! And the one thirsting, let him come; and the one desiring, let him take of the water of life freely.
Rev 22:18 For I testify together with everyone hearing the Words of the prophecy of this Book, if anyone adds to these things, God will add upon him the plagues having been written in this Book.
Rev 22:19 And if anyone takes away from the Words of the Book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the Book of Life, and out of the holy city, and of the things having been written in this Book.
Rev 22:20 The One testifying these things says, Yes, I am coming quickly. Amen. Yes, come, Lord Jesus!
Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with all of you. Amen.

May my handling of this book in this study be found acceptable unto the Lord.

* notes on the sassanid empire. It is a pre islamic empire that once encompassed, all of Iran Iraq Afganistan the Caucasus which includes, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Dagestan, it encroached into central Asia turkey the arabian pennisula and pakistan. (This may the link of the whole gog magog story. It then is the persian empire to come that encompasses these various areas including Georgia of the Baltic influence. The Sassanid Empire was the last great Persian empire until Islam came to Iran and the Muslim Empires arose.)

There are many ways to look at Eschatology and one can hold any of possibly nine positions and still be saved. Just as in the days of Jesus when the Pharisees did not understand the "greater One' in their midst, it will take all our listening to the Holy Spirit when the time of reckoning comes. Will we get it right?

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